Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#224 Re: Re: Re: Re: Market Confusion?

by bandido

Sunday April 20th, 2003 2:43 PM

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I downloaded the Windows version of Firebird DB and there is no installer included. It is even stated in a readme file that the installer must be downloaded separatelly. If a "computer geek" unistall his/her Firebird DB by mistake when uninstalling a program listed as Mozilla Firebird, then we have a problem. His 'geek" title must be taken away. I don't see many grandpas and grandmas using Firebird DB. Firebird (the database) is the one showin a confusing name. Why not calling it FirebirdSQL, after all the BBS project people who predate the database people called theirs Firebird BBS and Mozillai is calling their version Mozilla Firebird.

Mozilla Firebird will always have a market share significantly higher than Firebird DB. In any case you will benefit from the fact that many people doing a google search for Firebird the browser end up finding Firebird DB instead. Bunch of hypocrites. What would happen if thye BBS people would come forward and ask you to drop your name? The re is a saying in Spanish: "Ensuciando el agua para despues tener que tomarsela" (Muddling the water that later you will have to drink)