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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#215 Re: Re: Hmm, Mozilla vs Phoenix semantics

by Xandrex <alexandre.ho_xdxmozillazine@m4x.org>

Saturday April 19th, 2003 8:18 AM

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eloki said many things :

>Phoenix was an official experiment on the part of mozilla.org.<

that's false. Phoenix is not even in the projects page on the <http://www.mozilla.org/> . Phoenix is a project that uses some code from the application Mozilla.

>Phoenix is now being adoped as the official mozilla.org browser release.<

That's false too ! People in the Phoenix's staff did some good job, and released their code. Mozilla developpers will re-use some of that code. Today, linux kernels developpers use Bugzilla to track bugs, does it mean that linux kernel developpers adopt Bugzilla ? Today, Apple developpers use KHTML for their new browser (Safari). Some part of the Safari code will be (at least, so they say) released, and KHTML developpers may be willing to use it. But that doesn't mean that Konqueror (which uses KHTML too) will embrace Apple's Safari !