Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#210 Re: Renaming Phoenix

by Xandrex <>

Saturday April 19th, 2003 6:52 AM

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airporttools wrote :

> Now lets suppose that Joe User (my customer with my software on his machine) has > had a sys-admin come in and put Firebird, the browser, on his machine. Take that > one step further and sys-admin gal forgot to mention this to Joe User. Not unusual?

So ? does a sys-admin install a program as a sys-admin ? Can it then be deleted by any user ?

> So, when Joe User reads my uninstall instructions that say, "remove Firebird > database system from your computer", do you think he is going to be so careful and > actually look through the entire list provided on the "Add/Remove Programs" dialog.

I guess he wouldn't look the /entire/ list. But when you open the "add/remove progs" window, the applications are sorted *by name*. Supposing Firebird DB and Mozilla Firebird use the same name in the list ("Firebird"), the user will see two programs called "Firebird". Will (s)he then pick randomly one to uninstall ?