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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#2 Market Confusion?

by schapel

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 11:23 AM

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"We at IBPhoenix think that having a browser and a database with the same name in the same space will confuse the market, especially as browsers and databases are often used in the same applications."

I don't think so. Only a very small group of people should know what database is used on the backend of a web-based system. Additionally, the web-based system should work on any browser, so there is no reason to refer to the Firebird browser in particular. The only people I can think of that would get confused is developers, if they discovered a problem using the Firebird browser and said simply "I found a bug in Firebird." But they shouldn't be referring to the database by the name Firebird anyway, because ideally the server will be set up so that any database can be used in place of Firebird.

Does anyone really think they're going to get confused between the Firebird database and the Firebird browser? If so, could you explain the scenario where this would occur?