Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#199 Ahem

by Kovu <>

Friday April 18th, 2003 5:24 AM

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"Kovu is relentlessly, systematically smacking down everybody in these threads who doesn't like the new names."

It's not a question of liking. Who the hell likes "seamonkey"? I don't, but I never bitched about it. We are talking internal codenames, and necessary ones at that. And if you didn't like the names, after they're announced isn't the time to complain about it. It's a done deal. I don't want staffers wasting any more time on this silly nonsense; I want them working on Mozilla.

"their response basically amounts to: "Shut up. We do what we want.""

No, it basically amounts to "we've done no harm to anyone, and as such we see no reason to change anything."