Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#197 Re: Re: Ahem

by Ded

Friday April 18th, 2003 4:46 AM

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"Contrary to what you think, I care that we've upset the Firebird database users."

Does wolves like piglets and HOW does they like them...

"However, each flame or insult makes me care a little less. Perhaps it will result in a name change, but all I know for sure is that you'll lose some goodwill from Mozilla users and perhaps next time they're looking at Open Source databases they'll be less likely to consider Firebird (I'm not saying that's right, but it's probably true)."

It starts to be like kid's squabble in the sand-box. Should I say there are many browsers but only one multigeneretional architecture RDBMS, so I'll just issue order to use Opera only in my company to avoid software and support conflicts? Should others database application developers insert into customer's documentation on their programs phrase: "If you take more care in your corporative data than in comfort looking pictures in Internet you should'nt install Mozilla Firebird. Price for support computers where it is installed is payed twice in compare with our official price"? Nice relationship between OS projects. Dave Fuler (Borland) is already happy due to Mozilla decision, let's make happy Bill Gates?

Best regards, Alexander V.Nevsky.