Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#194 Re: 76% ?!?!

by Ded

Friday April 18th, 2003 3:45 AM

You are replying to this message

"What project has Mozilla muscled out, sue into oblivion, or otherwise unfairly influenced? A DB who ALREADY shares a common name with SEVERAL other products, including open-source ones? How so? Because they said so? Offer some proof that they HAVE BEEN harmed (no future-impact speculation, thank you very much) or stop babbling about great apes. You are offending an endangered species."

I tried to be extremely polite during all discussions but my patience is close to be exhausted. Mozilla guys, maybe it is enough to make from youselves clowns who don't understand difference between small projects oriented on experienced computer users who certainly will not be confused by any namespace intersecton and confusion between RDBMS client software and browser, which are both installed on nearly any computer in the world used by people who think programs are running within monitor and system box is needed only to stick CD into it.

Best regards, Alexander V.Nevsky.