Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#185 Re: Re: Re: Hmm, Mozilla vs Phoenix semantics

by eloki

Thursday April 17th, 2003 9:16 PM

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"Mozilla is not adopting Phoenix, they are adopting THE CODE from the Phoenix project and making it the new Mozilla development trunk."

Well, I think you're splitting hairs here. I'm not saying I can't be wrong, but I don't see how any of these corrections you're making bear much part on my original post. But okay, I'll examine what you said above, and as I think there's a lot of naming ambiguity in our posts, I'll be more explicitly verbose.

You say they're not adoping Phoenix, they're adopting the Phoenix code. By this I take you to mean that Mozilla-the-project is not adoping Phoenix-the-project, they are adopting Phoenix-the-codebase and making it the new Mozilla-development-codebase. But I always understood Phoenix-the-project to be an experimental browser officially supported by Mozilla-the-organisation. But from what you say above, they're not adoping Phoenix-the-project. So does this mean that Phoenix-the-project will go on? Because my assumption is that it would not.