Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#170 76% ?!?!

by Kommet

Thursday April 17th, 2003 2:16 PM

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It said so in a WEB-POLL? I guess that is settled then! Maybe Phallus WOULD have been a better choice....


I mock you. Mock, mock mock. I would mock you less if your argument made sense.

"500-lb gorilla"? That sure is jingoism, but it isn't even very good jingoism. Wait, I spoke too soon. "Mozilla regime" is worse.

Of course the poll is meaningless. It is a fucking Web Poll. A point of contention, though. MozillaZINE put up the poll on the MozillaZINE page. This poll was not put up by Mozilla(full stop) nor is it on the Mozilla.Org page. Methinks you are not where you think you are.

What project has Mozilla muscled out, sue into oblivion, or otherwise unfairly influenced? A DB who ALREADY shares a common name with SEVERAL other products, including open-source ones? How so? Because they said so? Offer some proof that they HAVE BEEN harmed (no future-impact speculation, thank you very much) or stop babbling about great apes. You are offending an endangered species.

"...(Mozilla) unleashed this attack on the OSS community and offense against (Mozilla's) own user base... "

Uh, ok. That is all you. I don't even have the words.

They moved a project from a legally unusable name to a legally usable name (which means the same thing as the unusable one) and this is how you view it? Fine. I now doubt both your sanity and your perception of reality, but give you full marks for your willingness to be blindly militant. Kudos to you.