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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#148 Re: Firebird is already taken.

by STED

Thursday April 17th, 2003 11:45 AM

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> When I install a software package I don't expect to find a car in my garrage.... ... just becuase they think they are a bigger fish in the pond.

Which pond is that? The "open source pond" ??? When did you last decide you would download a random open source program?

People download software not solely becuse it's open source, but for a specific use (though they can choose a OSS over a non OSS that fills the same target use, which eg I often do). There is no risk what so ever that any potential user will confuse a webbrowser and DB software.

> So I think your (managements) legal advice that you

For the record I'm not involved in moz development.

> and some of the the ill informed comment, by some of your more zealous advocates, such as claiming we actually in this for the publicity.

Well, all the reasons you have given sofare are as thin as water so the only realistic reason for your strong commitment in raising hell over this that remains is the PR it gives. And if we are to talk about zealous advocates for something, I'm sure you've read this page ... <http://www.ibphoenix.com/…nix&page=ibp_Mozilla0>