Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#134 missing the point

by an_mo

Thursday April 17th, 2003 9:36 AM

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Kovu, you are missing the point. Everybody in this thread including you an me wants one thing: the success of mozilla and its derivative. Nothing else matters.

The simple fact that we are talking about this means that we are failing that goal (at least in part). Maybe in the end we will forget about this, whether or not the Firebird name stays. In the meanwhile though relationships are hurt, people are disappointed. I am telling you my willingness to collaborate is lower than yesterday.

If this was a discussion about the quality of the name, then you would be right, it would be pointless. But the discussion is not about that. I may like Firebird as a name, but just from the reaction you must admit the choice is a failure in itself.