Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#120 Re: Hmm, Mozilla vs Phoenix semantics

by eloki

Thursday April 17th, 2003 8:11 AM

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Well OK, here's how I see it. Phoenix was an official experiment on the part of That's what I meant when I was referring to the Mozilla project, the organisation/people. As you point out, Phoenix (the official experimental browser) is now being adoped as the official browser release. Phoenix was obviously official enough and important enough to have AOL's lawyers approve a new name for it, so I think I'm justified in saying that the top level of staff are the ones with political responsibility for the new name and not merely some minor offshoot group inside the project who were politically independent of staff.