Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#116 Confusion? Yes, Mozilla SQL

by theuiguy

Thursday April 17th, 2003 7:44 AM

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Although most browser users are unaware of it, Mozilla recently added native SQL support. <http://bugzilla.mozilla.o…A+Native+Database+Support> I believe that could be the cause of some confusion that would have legal teeth. I'm not a lawyer, but as I understand it, a critical concern for trademark infringement is potential market confusion.

I assume the browser formerly known as Phoenix picked up this SQL support from the Mozilla codebase when it was added. If it did, then people may well ask: did the FireBird browser use FireBird database technologies to add support? I know the answer is no, but many will not know that or may be confused.

Granted, very few people are aware of SQL support in Mozilla and it is certainly not a primary function of the Web browser, so the danger of market confusion is probably small. If the official name will be Mozilla FireBird (which feels more like spin than the original plan) then the issue is smaller. I just dislike the idea of trampling on the FireBird database's name because even if the official name is Mozilla FireBird, it will be called simply FireBird.