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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#106 Re: Ahem

by deadmeat

Thursday April 17th, 2003 5:34 AM

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This isn't a valid poll, it doesn't have a Telnet to port 80 option.

Unfortunately most of the people posting in the discussion won't know what I mean, and the reason is that most of them have probably never been to this site before. So really what they think about the name of a Mozilla browser isn't as important as what the users of Mozilla think.

You should applaude the fact that the poll has the option for "They shouldn't have picked the same name as the open-source Firebird relational database".

If enough actual Mozilla/Phoenix users vote for that option then I think there's a good case for arguing that the name should change. Unfortunately now that the poll has had input from a lot of unhappy Firebird database users it can't be used as a measure of Mozilla user opinion. Oh well, it's not like anyone sane would ever take the results of a mozillaZine poll too seriously.

Contrary to what you think, I care that we've upset the Firebird database users. However, each flame or insult makes me care a little less. Perhaps it will result in a name change, but all I know for sure is that you'll lose some goodwill from Mozilla users and perhaps next time they're looking at Open Source databases they'll be less likely to consider Firebird (I'm not saying that's right, but it's probably true).