Phoenix and Minotaur to be renamed Firebird and Thunderbird

Monday April 14th, 2003

Asa Dotzler writes: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while."

#73 Re: I suggest

by bzbarsky

Tuesday April 15th, 2003 12:10 PM

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As you may have noticed, my post was supposed to sound "arrogant and judgemental". You're right that I'm showing my lack of tolerance, but my tolerance has evaporated over the last two years as more and more of my Mozilla time has been wasted on useless wanking about in bugs.

I would be interested to see a case where I've alienated someone whom I was not intending to alienate.. (and yes, there are times when I will intentionally try to alienate someone; "jtk" is a good example).

During the two years we speak of, I've been finishing college, applying to graduate school, holding down a job, doing Mozilla development, doing bug triage. All that said, your judgement that I knew enough to write documentation is incorrect -- it is only in the last 3-4 months that I've understood the parts of the codebase that I'm working on documenting well enough to document them.

And yes, I think you're right. The "main developers" will get tired of the crap associated with this project and move on. And you will still be around. And then what?