Phoenix and Minotaur to be renamed Firebird and Thunderbird

Monday April 14th, 2003

Asa Dotzler writes: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while."

#178 My take on the whole thing...

by comet_11

Thursday April 17th, 2003 2:05 AM

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To be honest, the Firebird/FirebirdSQL thing sounds like an honest mistake, not a deliberate attempt to take the name of another project. The error, as I see it, was retreating into the "it's legal, so it's OK" shell. Not attacking asa or anything, but I always saw the open source movement as being that of community. Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter so much as whether it is ethical or very nice.

Really, I thought the name Phoenix represented the ideals of the project a lot more, rising from the ashes of its old self to be something new and fresh. Firebird doesn't really have that ring to it. I'm not much of a marketing genius, but I'm sure there are plenty of people with good ideas for names that better represent the project than Firebird. The name change is still fresh, so a second change, if done soon, would not mean all that much confusion.

It just seems like this has blown up into a problem larger than really necessary. I'm interested in hearing responses and critiques of my ideas, but please try to keep them nice, I don't want to turn a friendly suggestion into a flame-fest.