Phoenix and Minotaur to be renamed Firebird and Thunderbird

Monday April 14th, 2003

Asa Dotzler writes: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while."

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by ogiesen

Thursday April 17th, 2003 1:34 AM

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Yes, but I think the reason they could co-exist is that they only share very few users. While an RDBMS and a web browser are surely two very different applications, they are still very likely to be used by the same group of people. This is probably less likely to be the case with a BBS and a mortgage calculator.

All that said, I must say that the Firebird RDBMS community by its childish attack on the Mozilla people has just lost far more respect from me than Mozilla people lost for choosing the Firebird name. If there's anything you could accomplish by such acts it is only that the attacked will stand his/her/its ground even more fiercely even if they might have considered consensus in the beginning. You couldn't argue sensibly with your back against the wall for very long. There will just come a point where people will just close their ears and any sensible arguments will just drown in the hubub.

This is a sad day.