Phoenix and Minotaur to be renamed Firebird and Thunderbird

Monday April 14th, 2003

Asa Dotzler writes: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while."

#151 Mozilla should have integrity on this issue

by mbeachill <>

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 1:34 PM

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I have been using the firebird database since its inception and the amount and quality of the work by firebird members has impressed me greatly. They are I believe building a powerful tool for all programmers that over time will have the sophistication and power to improve the applications we create.

Now they want everybody to know their product's name, this will help programmers to find this fantastic tool and by more and more people finding out about it support, development etc will improve.

Deciding to use the same name will make it less clear when publicising the tool that this is the database product. Rather than stand out as a beacon pointing to the database - which one? or isnt that a browser? will be a more likely response.

I know choosing names is difficult but out of integrity and acknowledgement of the firebird team you should put more thought into renaming your product. Rising from the ashes is fine but not at the expense of such a sterling group of developers.

Mark Beachill Technical Director

PS I dont normally go in for any of this - but this really is annoying.