Phoenix and Minotaur to be renamed Firebird and Thunderbird

Monday April 14th, 2003

Asa Dotzler writes: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while."

#125 Re: Protecting Mozilla's Open Source Cred.

by paul_reeves <>

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 6:45 AM

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You wrote: " And the not so minor BBS project which has been around at least as long as 1999? And the Firebird Software Ltd gaming company that pre-dates all of the popular open source projects? It's not our intent to cause confusion or to see fences fall into a state of disrepair."

Let's take these in reverse order - Firebird Software Ltd seem to date from the 1980's. They are not a registered UK company and do not even show up as a dissolved company. In fact they seem to belong entirely to the 1980's.

The Firebird BBS project is alive and well. But it is a pity that you forgot to mention that it is in CHINESE and based in ROC.

If you knew full well about both the above facts it seems that you conveniently omitted them. This is disingenuous in the extreme. If this comes as news to you then it appears that your research is poor, bordering on the inept.

For someone who claims to be a Mozilla advocate your actions this week are doing the project a great dis-service.

Let's face it. There is only one open source software project called Firebird and it is not yours.