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Debugging and Testing Websites with Mozilla

Tuesday April 8th, 2003

foopy writes: "Henrik Gemal wrote a great article on debugging your web site using Mozilla."

#1 Very nice indeed!

by johann_p

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 11:47 AM

In fact, that is something I would like to see on mozilla.org ... I fear that many people are looking for this or other information to be found on gemal.dk and similar sites at the mozilla.org site without luck. Wouldn't it be good to at least have a Mozilla-approved list of key sites likes this maintained at mozilla.org? Of course the site to be on top of that page would have to be mozillazine.org (is it anywhere mentioned on mozilla.org?)

#7 Mr

by prowsej

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 5:02 PM

Yes, I think that Mozillazine.org is mentioned. For instance, when Mozillazine.org was having its drive for donations, I think that was put on the main mozilla.org page.

#13 but as a valuable ressource ...

by johann_p

Wednesday April 9th, 2003 12:22 AM

what I meant is that it would be helpful to have a list of valuable ressources there. There are many sites that kind of do what users might expect at mozilla.org but they are nowhere mentioned in this context at mozilla.org to my knowledge

#14 d.m.o

by thelem

Wednesday April 9th, 2003 9:27 AM

Does http://directory.mozilla.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Clients/WWW/Browsers/Mozilla/ count? (on directory.mozilla.org aka dmoz.org)

#2 Adds-on

by vgendler

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 12:06 PM

It would be very nice and helpful after split Mozilla into separate browser, email client, composer, calendar, etc. present installation options including not only these well known components but also various add-ons with many (or all) pieces like speellchecker, HTTP Headers console, etc... probably grouped into packs (Web developer pack, Advanced pack, ...).

#15 Re: Adds-on

by gangz

Friday April 11th, 2003 2:10 AM

This is an interesting suggestion. Of late there has been a lot of hoopla over *enterprise* level products , and making Moz something like that is possible. It does have what it takes to be an enterprise level software, well , almost. There are inherent problems with Mozilla too, but seperating the different components, can help create a leaner mozilla. I guess the mozilla guys can think about this.

#3 View source improvement.

by ccapeng

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 12:29 PM

I hope Mozilla have more web developing friendly environment. Please add line number ti voew source. A litte improvment, a great help.

Please vote for bug 8589 and 15364.

#4 Re: View source improvement.

by WillyWonka

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 1:21 PM

It's harder to do than it first appears unfortunatly :(

#9 Re: Re: View source improvement.

by Tanyel

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 7:45 PM

What is the difficulty?

#10 Re: View source improvement.

by WillyWonka

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 8:18 PM

Apparently the code wasn't made with this in mind - someone has already looked into it (The details are in the bug report)

#5 Re: View source improvement.

by bzbarsky

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 2:02 PM

Voting won't make it any easier to do...

#6 Agree with the writer about the Javascript console

by zookqvalem

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 4:13 PM

I agree with the writer about the javascript console who say that it need some improvement. The javascript console is not too bad but not perfect for use-ability. I'm looking forward to one day that there'll be some improvment to it... I'm trying not to use the IE javascript console and use the Gecko javascript console often but unfortunately, I had failed to grasp the lack of simple displaying of the error message in the javascript console and resort to IE javascript console. It is obvious that I had failed....

#8 Re: Agree with the writer about the Javascript con

by jesse

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 7:24 PM

What do you not like about Mozilla's js console?

#11 Re: Re: Agree with the writer about the Javascript

by bzbarsky

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 8:49 PM

Where do I start? I can't easily copy just the url that points to the problem file. It does not clearly differentiate between errors belonging to different documents. Sometimes it has no scrollbars (known bug, but will anyone fix it? ;) )

That's as a user. As a developer, the consoleservice API has a lot of issues; I keep looking for time to revamp it some....

#12 Dom inspector

by wwrafter

Tuesday April 8th, 2003 10:08 PM

I have recently used the Dom Inspector. It was an incredible help in determining the problems I was having, both with css, and with javascript generated elements (which obviously don't show up in the view source).