it should work in theory, but I don't think it's at that stage just yet, so you'll end up with multiple GREs unfortunately...

look at the last item on the to do list - <http://www.mozilla.org/ma…ws/minotaur/todolist.html>

user.js ;)

or alternatively... mozilla mail

I'm sure you will be able to access about:config.

If not, an extension (a la Preferential) will be a peice of cake to write.

cheers

Since every single e-mail client includes an address book, I imagine that Minotaur will include one as well. Besides, that is an essential feature of an e-mail client. When someone says that the e-mail client will be simplified and slimmed down it doesn't mean that essential features are going to be stripped.

Minotaur does indeed support the address book component of mozilla. All of your usual AB features are in Minotaur.

That's what we like to hear =).

where from ? :)

Yes, Mach-o builds of Minotaur will be available.

It fails in the packaging stage but I got it to complete with some minor tweaks. This looks very promising! Though if the Minotaur developer(s) are going to support Mac OS X, some Mac-only changes willl have to be made so Minotaur's menus persist when all of its windows are closed. What happens now is when you close all the windows you see the Communicator menubar.

Phoenix on Mac OS X has this problem too FWIW.

The reason I prefer Phoenix over Mozilla is because it is more usable. The usability in Mozilla has never been good (and not of very high priority) and although I use Moz Mail I feel that there are a lot of things that needs to be more usable and stream lined.

I actually use phoenix because it offers a better set of features than standard mozilla. The UI just feels more balanced. It seems people actually stopped to think what end users would like to see in a browser. It would be nice if the original mozilla would evolve in a similar way but development there seems to focus more on the non browser components (not that strange if you consider that the phoenix people also work on mozilla).

As soon as this mail client gets stable I might just give it a try. The main problem I've always had with mozilla mail was that it couldn't be launched in a separate process. Unlike my browser, my mail client must run permanently and keep checking for new messages. It would be nice if minotaur would share dlls and other reusable stuff with phoenix though. They could even be distributed together. Just as long as they run in separate processes.

For me, Phoenix is just faster and simpler.

- MXN

"I tried Pheonix for a little while, it was an OK little browser but I immediatley started to miss a bunch of Mozilla features. "

I miss many of Phoenix' browser features when I'm using Mozilla. That list includes inline form completion, customizable toolbars, dynamic theme switching, extension management (the ability to disable but not delete extensions), a convenient search field on the toolbar, open any bookmark folder as a tab group, overflow in the personal toolbar, global history in the Go menu, quicksearch in history, a clear all button for all of my private data, and the support from the makers of more than 50 Phoenix themes. I also miss the 30-50% improvement in startup and new window time, and the nearly 100% improvement in download size. I also miss the more convenient menus and options organizations and the great Phoenix Qute look and feel.

What Mozilla browser features did you miss when you're using Phoenix? --Asa

I think Phoenix has a lot of promise, but I still prefer Mozilla over it. Mostly because it just seems "unfinished", which it is. I suspect that things will improve as Phoenix nears 1.0, but for now I'm sticking with Mozilla.

The two things I like most about Phoenix are the customizable toolbar and the google search. I wish Mozilla would adopt those two features. :)

Phoenix is also faster... it loads faster and browses faster.

As for Minotaur, that's one thing I really don't get. Of course I don't even use the Mozilla mail & news client. I use Outlook for all my email. I used to love the old Netscape messenger, but I'm not too crazy about Mozilla mail and news.

However, I guess there's a demand for it. A lot of people seem interested in the project.

but you know what? It doesn't matter if we get it or not. There's always room for new projects. and in the end they help improve eachother... Like with Phoenix, I'm sure some of the UI elements will eventually make it into Mozilla. and of course Phoenix is built on the latest Mozilla code base. And I suspect that Minotaur will help improve Mozilla mail & news by adding new features and improvements. So it's all good. :)

xan...

Because there's no chance that Mozilla can produce competitive products as long as it pursues a suite. By focusing 100% on the browser and mail client respectively, Phoenix and Minotaur actually have a good chance at producing best-in-class software.

Imagine you compose a mail, while the browser loads a page in the background an crashes. If Mozilla Navigator crashes, Mozilla Mail crashes too. If Phoenix crashes, Minotaur will not crash (and the other way around it's of course the same).

>>Also some bugs that should be on more active radar IMHO: (LINK) "multiple smtp/pop3 accs per set of folders" - also must-have for many OE converts.<<

you can do this with the filters mozilla provides. its not very obvious right away but once you know there is nothing stopping you.

all you need to do is set up a filter in your secondary mail

subject doesnt contain [lots of randomly pressed keys]

move to [the folder you want this accounts mail to show up in]

done

works for me :)