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Saturday March 8th, 2003

Candidate builds of Mozilla 1.3 are now available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X. Please download and test these builds to ensure that 1.3 is the greatest milestone to date. Read the full article for more information and download links from Asa Dotzler.

#44 Re: Re: Re: No no, this is the bug

by geekboy2000

Sunday March 9th, 2003 9:16 PM

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>You've got an example of this -- a mozilla file which Netscape modified and for >which they did not make the change publically available?

No. I'm not intimately, or even casually involved with the development. It's an assumption I made based on the fact that streaming with WMP 9 works with no Mozilla version that I've tried (I don't keep a list, but I've tried a lot of them), and no version of Netscape other than Netscape 7.02. The same plugins are used by both, and I'm running both on the same OS. My thoughts as to the possibility of a fix being implemented by Netscacpe and not being passed back are based on my perception/assumption - nothing more.

>You tested the 1.0 branch (where Netscape based its release) and it's not working for >Mozilla there?

No. I understand that the latest version of the 1.x branch is the most stable, and includes the latest fixes, but (no animosity intended here) as I noted in my original post, I'm not interested in choosing between a version with fewer features and all the fixes, and the "latest" version that includes new features, but not all the fixes. If an important fix relative to this or any other functionality is in 1.02, there's no reason I can think of that would explain it not being in a 1.3 release candidate.

>You can demonstrate that Netscape has modified Mozilla files to make this work for >them and that it's not something in the Media Player, in a Netscape specific file (which >they're not required to offer back) or broken in Mozilla because of some other Mozilla >specific code?

No. But again, it certainly appears that *something* has been changed somewhere in Netscape 7.02 that allows this to work properly. I'm running both apps with separate profiles on the same OS/setup. Even if a Netscape specific file was changed, and that file can't (or isn't required to) be passed back to Mozilla, somebody should be at least talking to somebody.

>Making the claim that Netscape isn't passing changes back to the Mozilla project is just >silly, unless you can prove it. Netscape develops the overwhelming majority of its code >_in_ Mozilla. There is no value for them in not doing so for all files that the two apps >share.

Asa, I'm not screaming conspiracy here. I posted because I think the Mozilla/Netscape project is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't mean to imply that there's a person or people who are knuckle-heads. I am suggesting that something that's in Netscape 7.02 isn't in the 1.3 release candidate and it should be. I don't know the reason, and just posted my assumption/perception. My aplogies for basing my opinion on assumptions, but heck, I don't have any real facts. :)