Full Article Attached Minutes of the Staff Meeting of Wednesday 26th February 2003

Wednesday March 5th, 2003

The minutes of the staff meeting of Wednesday 26th February 2003 are now online. Issues discussed include Camino, the 1.3 final release, the 1.4 release cycle, the new roadmap, the next Phoenix release, the appointment of Marcia Knous as a Staff Associate Member, the new Mozilla MinGW port, mail about porting fixes to 1.0 branch and reorganisation of the front page navigation.

#44 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: votes...

by asa <>

Friday March 7th, 2003 5:31 PM

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I intended to write "10 _fixed_ bugs with more than 50 votes". My point is that many bugs which have accumulated tens or even more than 100 votes do get fixed. Often voted for bugs do get fixed. They don't always get the priority it seems that voters crave.

I also failed to note something I did in my previous post on voting which is that there are 88,000+ bugzilla accounts. That means for a bug with 100 votes, approximately one tenth of one percent of the people that could have voted for the bug actually did. 0.11% isn't necessarily an indicator of much.

Flash blocking has almost 3 times as many votes as the bug you linked to. Should we implement flash blocking first? PGP for mail has more than 4 times the votes of the bug you linked to. Is it 4 times more important? Implementing x-forms has more than twice as many votes. Is it twice as important?

My point is that votes are just _one_ indicator. They are disproportionately used for features that people would like and are seldom used on issues that are genuine blockers to development and use. Votes matter. They just don't matter as much as people would like them to.

When 20%, heck, when 10% of bugzilla users vote for fixing a real bug I'll stop everything else I'm doing and work to get that bug fixed. 10% too high? How about 2%. No? Then how about 1%. When 1% of the people who have the ability to vote for a bug actually do, then I'll start to listen to those that believe votes should matter more than they currently do. Until then, votes for me will remain just _one_ useful indicator for what a very small vocal minority thinks should be fixed/implemented and not a lot more. That's not to say it's not a valuable indicator. Votes informed me that a PGP plug-in for mail was 4 times more desired by the vocal minority than a fix for your URLbar dataloss issue ;-)