Minutes of the mozilla.org Staff Meeting of Wednesday 12th February 2003
Thursday February 20th, 2003
The minutes from the mozilla.org staff meeting of Wednesday 12th February 2003 are now online. Issues discussed include the maintainance of key web site files, disabling inactive CVS accounts, removing CVS admin rights from normal users with checkin privileges, updating the Calendar partition in Despot, the status of the Chimera 0.7 release, the removal of the Qt port, possible large changes to Gecko or other components and the role of the review and super-review process.
#1 Chimera Name
Thursday February 20th, 2003 6:51 PM
Something has to happen with this name issue. Something just needs to be picked and released. This kind of little thing shouldn't hold up a project especially at a time like this when Safari has all the hype.
But yes, iVoyage is awful. No iNames please.
Its too bad someone (cough cough) didn't do a google search for "chimera" and maybe "browser" when they chose the name....
#3 Re: Chimera Name
Friday February 21st, 2003 12:55 AM
Hyatt's record on picking safe names for his browser projects isn't too hot ;-)
Don't worry, I don't think that iVoyage is a serious contender. We have a name which most people are happy with, and as soon as it gets trademark approval (let's not make the same mistake twice), then there will be a release.
#2 The webpage
Friday February 21st, 2003 12:14 AM
Will taking care of the front page by Gerv mean that it starts getting validated?
#4 Re: The webpage
Friday February 21st, 2003 12:56 AM
I'll be doing my best to sort out issues such as that over the next few weeks.
#5 Re: Need help? Do it yourself
Friday February 21st, 2003 2:07 AM
seems like it just lacks the correct Document Type and Character Encoding set. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mozilla.org&charset=utf-8+%28Unicode%2C+worldwide%29&doctype=HTML+4.01+Transitional
Friday February 21st, 2003 7:41 AM
Camino in italian means "fireplace". this is not very fashinating as browser name.
#7 Re: Camino?
Friday February 21st, 2003 10:01 AM
Even worse, where I live the Camino is a model of motorcycle that is notorious for being a favourite of "Johnny's", which is like the male equivalent of a dumb blonde.
#12 Phoenix associated with fire, too
Friday February 21st, 2003 1:56 PM
This and that <ACRONYM TITLE="As far as I know">AFAIK</ACRONYM> there was a planned name change; probably with what the fate of Chimera has.
Friday February 21st, 2003 10:50 AM
Camino is great and very fitting. It means "road, highway" or "trip, journey" in Spanish.
#10 Re: Camino
Friday February 21st, 2003 12:44 PM
How about "hojeo" ?
#22 Re: Camino
Sunday February 23rd, 2003 7:58 AM
In Spanish, Camino might mean journey (not a trip) but it also means a dirt road, not a highway, not a road.. Rather have Caminante (ca-mi.nan teh), which in Spanish means not a journey but "IN a journey". Dictionary definitions do not translate the intentionality of a word. <My primary language is Spanish>
#9 Why not iLite as a new name for Chimera
Friday February 21st, 2003 12:06 PM
"iLite" since this is a browser for those who feel Mozilla is too bloated and feature rich. ;)
#11 Re: Why not iLite as a new name for Chimera
Friday February 21st, 2003 1:12 PM
Actually, it's a browser for those who think that the Mozilla UI is ugly and does not look like a Mac app. Not quite the same as what you said...
#14 Mozilla not ugly.
Friday February 21st, 2003 2:00 PM
See subj. line.
#16 Re: Mozilla not ugly.
Friday February 21st, 2003 2:36 PM
I never said it was. Read my post, please.
--Boris (who does not even use a Mac)
#17 Re: Mozilla not ugly.
Friday February 21st, 2003 3:38 PM
I would respectfully disagree there. Sure, modern isn't half bad, but it doesn't fit in with ANYTHING. And classic would be a lot prettier if it wasn't dragged down by the need to have it's toolbar button faces look like those of the ancient, and thoroughly ugly, Netscape 4.x.
The worst thing is that bugs to replace the buttons with prettier ones have had applicable patches for ages, and yet they don't get committed. Seriously depressing.
This is al IMHO obviously, but still...
#19 Re: Why not iLite as a new name for Chimera
Friday February 21st, 2003 9:26 PM
I think "iBrowse" would be a good name because then in the title bar they could have "iBrowse - pr0n" :D
#15 new circumstances?
Friday February 21st, 2003 2:10 PM
What are the new circumstances and how might they affect review and super-review?
#18 Re: new circumstances?
Friday February 21st, 2003 6:46 PM
The reduction in the number of total developers, in part. And the realization that in some modules sr is unnecessary and seriously slows down development,
Saturday February 22nd, 2003 2:01 AM
Was this the nickname of an Intel chipset/CPU a few years ago? It shouldn't be tm, but...
#21 Re: Camino
Saturday February 22nd, 2003 3:28 PM
yes, it was the name for the Intel 820 chipset (for the Pentium III - http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/820/ ) before it was released. However, there's no sign of the name anywhere on their website, a search only finds news coverage of it before it came out. As you say, doesn't appear to be a TM. But I'm sure AOL's lawyers are checking this stuff thoroughly...
#24 Re: Re: Camino
Sunday February 23rd, 2003 8:07 AM
Can a common usage word be TM? In any case Intel could have trademarked "Intel Camino" but not the actual word camino all by itself. Just like "MS Word", but not the word Word could be trademarked. That's why Lotus was able to use "Lotus Word Pro" In any case GM also used the word for an ugly car'pickup hybrid called "El Camino"
Sunday March 9th, 2003 7:48 AM