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Sunday February 16th, 2003

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#25 Re: my opinion

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Monday February 17th, 2003 10:11 AM

You are replying to this message

"If you need money you really should place some ads. Asking people for money or setting up store items to make profit never works."

It's worked before and, judging by the donations so far, it'll work again. Anyway, the purpose isn't to make a profit, it's to cover expenses.

"It'll be sad to see you go."

Well, we're not planning to. :-)

"This is the first sign of serious trouble."

You obviously weren't here in late 2001: <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=2104> <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=2111> <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=2114> <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=2115>

The situation was much more serious then. Right now, it's not so bad. It's also been far more widely anticipated. And the most recent hosting bill has actually been paid; it's just that the money came from Jason Kersey's back pocket. Even if no-one donated, the site would still be good for another year.

"I've been wanting to donate to several sites but I lost my job and have no money."

No-one expects you to donate if you can't afford it. No-one expects you to donate even if you can afford it. Donations are entirely optional. No-one should feel forced to contribute.

"There's no point to donations at this point."

MozillaZine's PayPal balance suggests otherwise. :-)

"Right now I don't give money because it's the wrong situation to do it in. What if I give $50 and you shut the site down in 3 months? It's too risky an investment in that context."

So don't donate. No-one's going to hold it against you.

"So here's your options.

"A. Hope u get enough through paypal only constantly for like what? 5 years?"

That would appear to be working so far.

"B. Put properly targeted ads on the site that would interest members. OMG! Do a Shacknews thing and ask people to fill out a anonymous profile! Ad companies love those thingies :)"

MozillaZine has run ads in the past. They also always seemed to be those 'Punch the f*cking monkey' ones. People would probably just block them anyway.

"C. Strip the site of all bandwidth things like forums, polls.... etc."

But then it wouldn't be as good.

"D. Merge with another website. Hint, Mozilla.org has a lot your news items on it anyway. Just ask them if they'd like more news events on the site plus user feedback. I've always thought of this site as an extendtion of Mozilla.org anyway :)"

mozilla.org is the official site of, er, mozilla.org. Merging with them wouldn't really be an option because MozillaZine would lose its independence.

"E. Close the site"

That really would be the last resort.

"I've seen too many sites ask for donations. Subscription base the forums or something. Do that first before asking for donations. Usually that should be a last resort."

I think donations are preferable to subscriptions. Subscriptions force people to pay if they want to use the site. Donations keep it free and accessible to everyone. And for some reason (stupidity, naivity, or maybe even generousity) they work! Sure, maybe subscriptions looks like a "viable and forward-thinking business model" whereas donations looks like desperation. But we don't care. We have no shame. :-)

Alex