Reports of Phoenix's Death Greatly Exaggerated

Monday January 20th, 2003

Recently, there has been speculation that Phoenix has died. Not so. In a message to the Phoenix General forum, developer Pierre "pch" Chanial has announced that Phoenix is still alive. While pch won't be able to work on Phoenix for at least a month, Mozilla veterans Dean Tessman, Peter "jag" Annema and Jan Varga have all been given CVS access. A 0.6 release is under development.

#24 Re: My goodness

by the_Rebel

Saturday January 25th, 2003 3:51 PM

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The thing is that your "actual data" showing the popularity of Safari and Chimera does absolutely nothing to show whether or not Phoenix would be popular with Mac users.

I am not sure if you are trying to make a point by referring to Chimera and Safari as "severely under-featured browsers" or if you are simply trolling, but regardless, that also has no bearing on whether or not Mac users would like to use Phoenix. For the most part, people downloading Chimera and Safari are doing so because they are looking for an alternative to IE; they like Chimera and Safari because even in their beta state, these browsers are faster, more reliable, and render pages better than IE for the Mac.

Also, as I stated before, there is no "MacPhoenix" for Mac users to "vote" for. They can download an expiremental build at <> but it is not really supported by anyone and there is no guarantee that there be any future builds. Your average end user is not going to download and use a buggy expiremental browser for which there is absolutely no support. It is no surprise to anyone that Safari has more downloads; Safari has a multi-billion dollar company behind it whereas the expiremental Phoenix build for OS X basically has one guy who says that he really does not have time work on it much.

Most Mac users do not even know that Phoenix exists and not all of those who know it exists know that there exists an unofficial expiremental OS X build.

So yes, it is definitely moronic to claim that the popularity of Safari and Chimera in any way indicates that Mac users do not want Phoenix.