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Rolling Out Mozilla Across an Organization

Monday January 20th, 2003

alanjstr writes: "Slashdot discussed how to roll out Mozilla across an organization: 'If you were going to deploy a "branded" version of Mozilla, company-wide, how would you do it, especially if you had to worry about a mixed OS environment?'"


#1 vote for the RFE!

by sdsalsero

Monday January 20th, 2003 11:16 AM

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I started an RFE "bug" for this awhile ago (to complement the CCK "effort") but it hasn't gotten any bugzilla love, <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136492>

Maybe if more people voted for it?...

#2 Exchage troubles

by arsa

Monday January 20th, 2003 1:18 PM

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I understand that it's a bit off-topic, but my bug 92111 just got updated to "critical" :) It's going to be big, i could actualy move my users (who don't need all Outlook organizer functions) to Mozilla.

#3 vote for the RFE!

by sdsalsero

Monday January 20th, 2003 1:20 PM

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I started an RFE "bug" for this awhile ago (to complement the CCK "effort") but it hasn't gotten any bugzilla love, <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136492>

Maybe if more people voted for it?...

#4 I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by jdclucidly <clintonj@umkc.edu>

Monday January 20th, 2003 2:02 PM

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and I was quite disappointed by the reality of how difficult it is to do this. Most of the responses involved how to copy the Mozilla folder to other machines with some sort of install.bat. Other posts were just completely off-topic. I'm really disappointed that the CCK project only has a visible side at Netscape. It would be nice if Mozilla.org would open-source the CCK to the public so that we can all work on implementing these very important features.

#5 Re: I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by rwc

Monday January 20th, 2003 2:25 PM

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I did this for about 300 win9x/2000 machines (no other OSes, sorry) last September, after Mozilla 1.1 came out. The process is a little hairy, and I haven't gotten around to upgrading them to Mozilla 1.2.1 yet, though I should. It involved reverse-engineering the installer a little bit, but not recompiling it. Some very basic changes were made to Mozilla's UI, such as removing some items from the Preferences UI and right-click context menus, and some defaults were changed in all.js (proxies, cookies, cache, etc.) and localstore.rdf (sidebar, toolbar buttons, etc.) The installer was made "hands-free" (not silent), and incorperated these new defaults into the Mozilla profile it created. I'll be able to produce some documentation when I return to work Tuesday.

#6 I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by jdclucidly <clintonj@umkc.edu>

Monday January 20th, 2003 2:36 PM

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Thank you, kindly, in advance, for your help. I'll be happy to finally reducing the security nightmare IE and Outlook bring to the workplace. The great thing about using the installer is that I don't have to force the users to switch. I can offer this already great, preconfigured alternative to them (and maybe a copy they can take home on CD) that takes care of all the install headaches and get's them off the ground right out of the box. It's all about evangelism...

#7 Re: I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday January 20th, 2003 5:09 PM

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"It would be nice if Mozilla.org would open-source the CCK to the public so that we can all work on implementing these very important features."

What do you mean? CCK is already a mozilla.org project <http://www.mozilla.org/projects/cck/> and <http://bonsai.mozilla.org…odule=MozillaTinderboxAll> and has been since the beginning. So where have "the public" been and why are they not already working "on implementing these very important features"? You can pull and build the mozilla CCK by checking out the module mozilla/cck. export cvsroot=:pserver:<anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org>/:cvsroot then cvs co mozilla/cck.

--Asa

#10 I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by jdclucidly <clintonj@umkc.edu>

Monday January 20th, 2003 6:29 PM

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More specifically, I suppose I mean: Why isn't the CCK promoted more to the public. Why isn't the CCK available in a compiled state on Mozilla.org? Many don't have the time or resources to compile the CCK for every Mozilla release (it would be a huge, long process). Perhaps if the Mozilla.org CCK were made available for download (ie. contributors actually saw the fruitition of their work) there would be more interest in the project and Mozilla would gain more market share in certain environments.

#9 Re: I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by astrosmash

Monday January 20th, 2003 5:23 PM

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One thing you can do is create a default user profile, with the settings of you choice, in a location you assume may exist on all machines you wish to install to (say C:\program files\mozilla\userdata), then zip up profile directory (along with registry.dat). For installation you need only unzip this profile to the known location along with a vanilla mozilla-win32.zip distribution, and copy your custom registry.dat to %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Mozilla.

I'm forced to do some of my work on public terminals, now that I've gone back to school, so I do this type of mozilla installation on a daily basis. It works well.

The benefits: it actually works, it's (relatively) easy to set up, and you can upgrade to newer versions of mozilla-win32.zip without affecting the rest of your install process.

The drawbacks: it relies on a hard coded paths in registry.dat and prefs.js, and it only works for one user per machine -- if a new user logs on to the machine the Mozilla profile created for them will be mozilla.org's profile, not yours.

#11 Re: I submitted the question to Slashdot...

by rwc

Friday January 24th, 2003 2:11 PM

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I've cobbled together some rough documentation based on my notes when I deployed Mozilla last September. Please understand it's a first draft, and that suggestions for improvement are welcome. See <http://mozdoc.burlco.org/>

#8 For the true BOFHs out there

by Tar

Monday January 20th, 2003 5:20 PM

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Take IE skin from <http://pages.prodigy.net/zzxc/ieskin/> plus IE icons from <http://mozillako.hypermart.net/ieskin/> and the users never know why the browser doesn't suck anymore ;P

And to those reluctant to change, list of IE security holes: <http://pivx.com/larholm/unpatched/>

#12 Have Visual C++ 6.0, need CCK

by doc_savage

Tuesday May 4th, 2004 1:00 PM

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Has anyone successfully updated and compiled CCK for use with Mozilla 1.3+? If so, could you please share how? Also looking for a proper distribution engine (was mcd.cgi) for customized prefs created with CCK.