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Full Article Attached Contest: Design a Better Sound for Type Ahead Find

Tuesday December 17th, 2002

Aaronl writes in with news of a contest to replace the sound played when a Type Ahead Find search returns no matches. Read the full article for more details of the competition, which could be your gateway to a lucrative career in the computer alert beep creation industry.


#1 How about no sound?

by whiprush <jorge@whiprush.org>

Tuesday December 17th, 2002 9:32 PM

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The first time I heard this sound I was totally surprised.

Is a sound even necessary? Ugh, I have enough stupid things trying to take over my soundcard on every OS, I don't need my browser to do it too.

#2 Re: How about no sound?

by aaronl

Tuesday December 17th, 2002 9:44 PM

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I forgot to mention -- I'm putting an option for no sound in Type Ahead Find, in a Keyboard Navigation prefs panel. There will also be a pref for how to start type ahead find (whether it automatically starts up finding text, finding links or requires a manual start with / or ' keys).

#4 I never knew there _was_ a sound (n/t)

by c960657

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 3:45 AM

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#3 OS Sounds

by astrosmash

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 1:51 AM

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I think most people will be annoyed if an operating system defined sound isn't used. On MSWindows, XEmacs and MSVC use "Default Beep" to indicate a failed incremental search -- to use any other sound would be silly.

Personally, I don't think any sound should be used. It's a completely visual feature -- watch the search happen as you type, so you don't have to type more than you need to. Using sound in this case is redundant, and likely annoying. There may be some who think sounds will benefit those users who have to look at the keyboard when they type, but, in my experience, people who don't type well won't use this kind of feature anyway. Windows Explorer has always had this feature, but no matter how much I implore some people to "just type the first three letters and it will take you right there" most people would rather just mouse around, even when it takes them an order of magnitude longer to find what they're looking for.

I've always preferred the way Borland C++ Builder/Delphi/Kylix does incremental searching, because it simply ignores unfound characters -- I can mash out "mozoibllla", and it will match "mozilla" (unless it finds another word that starts with "mozoib"). I find that really useful, siince I'm kind of a slloppy ttyperist. Mozilla, MSVC, and XEmacs would beep, stop at "mozo", and force the user to hit backspace one or more times before allowing the search to continue - not very ideal.

#5 please, no sound!

by johann_p

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 5:30 AM

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the only thing more annoying than a computer making strange noises is - two or more of them, which can happen in offices, families etc. The beauty/annoyingness of sound is even more dependent on individual tastes than the beauty of visual things like guis (MS does help training people to ugliness there) Please make the sound be turned off by default, and make it use the system sound/beep if possible.

#6 There will be a pref for no sound

by aaronl

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 11:58 AM

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Read my response to the first poster -- there will be a pref to turn off the sound.

A lot of people who are slower typists than yourselves will be using this feature. I have heard from a lot of people who want the sound but are annoyed by the system beep. Yes, they could change their beep from an OS setting, but not everyone is that savvy. The type ahead find sound should work out of the box, it shouldn't be annoying and the user should be able to turn it off.

- Aaron

#7 Rheeet.wav

by coch

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 4:38 PM

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There was a rheeet.wav sound a while ago that would be cool for this. I think it was (maybe still there) on the mozilla FTP server, or there was a link posted in one of the bugs.

#8 Sound?

by hubick <chris@hubick.com>

Wednesday December 18th, 2002 5:41 PM

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I'm on Linux, Redhat 8, Moz1.3a+xft. I get sound from Gnome, GTK, and GAIM. Flash and Java Applets play sound. But I have never heard so much as a peep out of Mozilla!?!?? I don't get sound from any embedded in normal web pages either. Am I doing something wrong?

#9 Sounds?

by FattMattP

Thursday December 19th, 2002 4:47 PM

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I'm using Moz 1.2 and have never heard a sound when using type ahead find. Is there an option to turn it on? Also, does anyone else other than me find type ahead find useless? It would be better if it found any text in the web page rather than just links. I've personally never searched for link text specificaly. I've always just wanted to find text in the page.

#10 Found rheet.wav

by coch

Saturday December 21st, 2002 10:00 AM

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