Talkback included ? that is certainly a good thing.

lets hope mozilla.org get to see the results

Are they ever going to get rid of that horrendous DOS window? Is is just me, or is Gecko even slower than Communicator 4.5 for loading the MozillaZine homepage?

Unfortunately Net$cape decided not to include MozillaControl.dll in the package, which means Visual Basic users have to resort to the nightly builds to integrate the browser...

Everyone know Visual Basic is not a real programing language.

I like the sly nod to the AOL acquisition with the IMDB button pointing to "You've Got Mail".

Only MS would design an OS that could run on Visual Basic. A good language to use, about 30 years ago anyway.

Anyway, the pages seem to load up nice and quick on my computer.

Mmmm. Very nice and fast indeed. If they can maintain this level of speed in the final release Opera has serious competition.

As reported by CBS Marketwatch (and subsequently slashdot...)

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/archive/19981209/news/current/rebecca.htx?source=blq/yhoo

But what I wanna know is-- when's the Mac build going public? W

Fuck the mac build. What about Linux, for christ's sake?!

What is this win32-only crap?

All you Linux people with an attitude better calm down your not better than everyone else. Netscape is developing for the most used OS first.

Waldo, the last I heard Mac was behind most of the other builds but were slowly catching up.

Is it just me or is this product very, very far from completion? IE5 seems way ahead.

View source locks up on my machine, it doesn't resolve many of those Gecko demo links properly (it forgets the /gecko/ part of the URL for some reason) from the 'Gecko's Realm' website. Many of the top 100 web sites don't look right. Ack!

But, I'm still pullin' for ya, Mozilla...

IE5 is beta. Gecko is pre-alpha. IE4 had a big advantage over NS4 became it came 4 months after. Now for version 5 you'll see the reverse

I found Gecko to be incredibly nimble with quick display of pages. Way to go!

All i can say is WOW.This is one,awsome. engine is great.Even the opera browser doesnt compare to this.Im really looking forward to a beta of this with more fetures. I need my bookmarks lol.Anyways keep up the GREAT work Developers.

Mat B.B-)

Why wait for the beta? Just hop on over and grab a nightly build via our fetchBuilds page! The link is on the navbar at right. You can keep up with the day to day progress of mozilla without having to wait for a release from Netscape. If you wait for Netscape, you'll be missing the creation of some amazing UI features that will be coming out soon. Keep an eye out here, and we'll tell you when more goodies start popping up (many of you already got a glimpse with the original mozilla builds). However, you should still check out nightly builds. Help by filling out bug reports and testing as many pages as you can.

--mozineadmin

None, There ARE Linux builds on ftp.mozilla.org -- well, okay, they're debug versions that are ten times the filesize of the Win32 builds, but they're there.

Using 12/12 right now -- looking good!

Gecko has fast page loading like opera. Wish i could save files though.

this kicks severe booty!! Microsoft, you're gone!! If you guys can keep the file size down, the speed quick and add stuff like bookmarks, Whats Related and all that crap, all under 2~3 megs, Microsoft Internet Explorer will go the way of the dinosaurs!!!!

Every time I go to slashdot it gets stuck after displaying the top bar. Pity, since with its glut of tables, slashdot makes a good browser speed-test.

Does anyone know of a Linux libc5 build of mozilla? I don't have the patience right now to upgrade to glibc2, and rebooting to Windows 95 to run mozilla is a depressing experience (was Win 95 ALWAYS this bad or have I been pampered by Linux for too long?)

Just curious - does anybody know when in the springtime the beta is going to be available?

No, they're planning to leave it in the final release, together with the loud and annoying beep on startup.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Will there be a port of gecko to win16?

This release of Gecko reminds me of the days when browsers use to load up in a couple of seconds instead of spending most of their time initializing stuff that i probably won't need or use any way. I hope they develop a better way to install plugins so that I don't have to shut down the browser ever time I install a new one.If they can keep Gecko to a size similar to Opera they'll win the browser war easily :).

I have found an excellent web page for testing: the ICQ page. It plain sucks, and makes a really good test.

I too have had trouble loading slashdot. Title bar renders then everything stops. :( Keep on kickin butt fellas!

Wait a second... was it just me or does that linux user just not get it? Hell I use linux at home sometimes and even I know that Mozilla releases Unix versions. What - ya afraid of a little compiling? Maybe you should switch back to Windows - or even easier, go buy a Mac (I can't believe I just suggested that).

Gecko is coming along great - I have had problems with displaying tables correctly in the nightly versions (and had the problem on Slashdot also) but other then that it seems to be coming pretty well.

Nick: welcome to Linux Phase 2: the alternative mainstream desktop OS. It's not just for hackers anymore.

arielb: yeah, I wish... (I'm a newbie myself but at least I try to keep a decent attitude) Oh well, maybe I should try BeOS R4 now (noone else is running that right?) lol

Make Gecko as good as Ie4 and as small as it is, and support MORE LINUX. Theres all of your zealots to go against MS.