Thursday December 10th, 1998
The Gecko Developer Release has been posted on Netscape's FTP server and can be downloaded here. This release is only for win32 platforms, and will expire in the same way that the nightly builds do. This release also includes talkback, which allows for tracking of bugs that crash the viewer. Other than that, it is quite similar to the nightly builds.
#1 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Friday December 11th, 1998 7:03 AM
Talkback included ? that is certainly a good thing.
lets hope mozilla.org get to see the results
#2 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Friday December 11th, 1998 7:38 AM
Are they ever going to get rid of that horrendous DOS window? Is is just me, or is Gecko even slower than Communicator 4.5 for loading the MozillaZine homepage?
#3 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by Rob Dale
Friday December 11th, 1998 1:13 PM
Unfortunately Net$cape decided not to include MozillaControl.dll in the package, which means Visual Basic users have to resort to the nightly builds to integrate the browser...
#4 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Friday December 11th, 1998 1:38 PM
Everyone know Visual Basic is not a real programing language.
#5 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by Joel Caris
Friday December 11th, 1998 9:38 PM
I like the sly nod to the AOL acquisition with the IMDB button pointing to "You've Got Mail".
#6 Re: Gecko Arrives!
Friday December 11th, 1998 11:49 PM
Only MS would design an OS that could run on Visual Basic. A good language to use, about 30 years ago anyway.
Anyway, the pages seem to load up nice and quick on my computer.
#7 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by Pete Closs
Saturday December 12th, 1998 5:30 AM
Mmmm. Very nice and fast indeed. If they can maintain this level of speed in the final release Opera has serious competition.
#8 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Saturday December 12th, 1998 9:38 AM
As reported by CBS Marketwatch (and subsequently slashdot...)
But what I wanna know is-- when's the Mac build going public? W
#9 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Saturday December 12th, 1998 11:40 AM
Fuck the mac build. What about Linux, for christ's sake?!
What is this win32-only crap?
#10 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Saturday December 12th, 1998 2:03 PM
All you Linux people with an attitude better calm down your not better than everyone else. Netscape is developing for the most used OS first.
Waldo, the last I heard Mac was behind most of the other builds but were slowly catching up.
#11 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Saturday December 12th, 1998 2:36 PM
Is it just me or is this product very, very far from completion? IE5 seems way ahead.
View source locks up on my machine, it doesn't resolve many of those Gecko demo links properly (it forgets the /gecko/ part of the URL for some reason) from the 'Gecko's Realm' website. Many of the top 100 web sites don't look right. Ack!
But, I'm still pullin' for ya, Mozilla...
#12 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Saturday December 12th, 1998 4:34 PM
IE5 is beta. Gecko is pre-alpha. IE4 had a big advantage over NS4 became it came 4 months after. Now for version 5 you'll see the reverse
#13 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by simon adkins
Saturday December 12th, 1998 4:42 PM
I found Gecko to be incredibly nimble with quick display of pages. Way to go!
#14 Re: Gecko Arrives!
by Mathew baca
Saturday December 12th, 1998 5:38 PM
All i can say is WOW.This is one,awsome. engine is great.Even the opera browser doesnt compare to this.Im really looking forward to a beta of this with more fetures. I need my bookmarks lol.Anyways keep up the GREAT work Developers.
#15 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by MozillaZine Admin
Saturday December 12th, 1998 9:28 PM
Why wait for the beta? Just hop on over and grab a nightly build via our fetchBuilds page! The link is on the navbar at right. You can keep up with the day to day progress of mozilla without having to wait for a release from Netscape. If you wait for Netscape, you'll be missing the creation of some amazing UI features that will be coming out soon. Keep an eye out here, and we'll tell you when more goodies start popping up (many of you already got a glimpse with the original mozilla builds). However, you should still check out nightly builds. Help by filling out bug reports and testing as many pages as you can.
#16 Re: Gecko Arrives!
by Zontar The Mindless
Saturday December 12th, 1998 9:33 PM
None, There ARE Linux builds on ftp.mozilla.org -- well, okay, they're debug versions that are ten times the filesize of the Win32 builds, but they're there.
Using 12/12 right now -- looking good!
#17 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Sunday December 13th, 1998 4:59 PM
Gecko has fast page loading like opera. Wish i could save files though.
#18 Re:Gecko Arrives!
by Daniel Hill
Sunday December 13th, 1998 7:40 PM
this kicks severe booty!! Microsoft, you're gone!! If you guys can keep the file size down, the speed quick and add stuff like bookmarks, Whats Related and all that crap, all under 2~3 megs, Microsoft Internet Explorer will go the way of the dinosaurs!!!!
#19 can't get it to render slashdot
by Adam Rice
Sunday December 13th, 1998 10:04 PM
Every time I go to slashdot it gets stuck after displaying the top bar. Pity, since with its glut of tables, slashdot makes a good browser speed-test.
Does anyone know of a Linux libc5 build of mozilla? I don't have the patience right now to upgrade to glibc2, and rebooting to Windows 95 to run mozilla is a depressing experience (was Win 95 ALWAYS this bad or have I been pampered by Linux for too long?)
#20 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Sunday December 13th, 1998 10:14 PM
Just curious - does anybody know when in the springtime the beta is going to be available?
#21 Re: Are they ever going to get rid of that horrend
by Adam Rice
Sunday December 13th, 1998 10:44 PM
No, they're planning to leave it in the final release, together with the loud and annoying beep on startup.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
#22 Re: Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 12:23 AM
Will there be a port of gecko to win16?
#23 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 5:54 AM
This release of Gecko reminds me of the days when browsers use to load up in a couple of seconds instead of spending most of their time initializing stuff that i probably won't need or use any way. I hope they develop a better way to install plugins so that I don't have to shut down the browser ever time I install a new one.If they can keep Gecko to a size similar to Opera they'll win the browser war easily :).
#24 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 9:07 AM
I have found an excellent web page for testing: the ICQ page. It plain sucks, and makes a really good test.
#25 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 9:38 AM
I too have had trouble loading slashdot. Title bar renders then everything stops. :( Keep on kickin butt fellas!
#26 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 12:35 PM
Wait a second... was it just me or does that linux user just not get it? Hell I use linux at home sometimes and even I know that Mozilla releases Unix versions. What - ya afraid of a little compiling? Maybe you should switch back to Windows - or even easier, go buy a Mac (I can't believe I just suggested that).
Gecko is coming along great - I have had problems with displaying tables correctly in the nightly versions (and had the problem on Slashdot also) but other then that it seems to be coming pretty well.
#27 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 3:07 PM
Nick: welcome to Linux Phase 2: the alternative mainstream desktop OS. It's not just for hackers anymore.
#28 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday December 14th, 1998 3:21 PM
arielb: yeah, I wish... (I'm a newbie myself but at least I try to keep a decent attitude) Oh well, maybe I should try BeOS R4 now (noone else is running that right?) lol
#29 Re:Gecko Arrives!
Monday January 4th, 1999 8:58 AM
Make Gecko as good as Ie4 and as small as it is, and support MORE LINUX. Theres all of your zealots to go against MS.