Mozilla 1.3 Alpha Released

Friday December 13th, 2002

Mozilla 1.3 Alpha is out! This release introduces shedloads of new Mail & Newsgroups features (including Bayesian spam classification, message views and improved filtering), a new Bookmarks Quick Search bar (similar to the one found in Phoenix) and support for the Back and Forward buttons on the IntelliMouse Explorer. There's also improvements to the DOM Inspector and lots of other bug fixes. However, remember that this is only an alpha release, so expect bugs.

Builds are available from's Releases Page or directly from the FTP site. Check out the Release Notes for more info.

#9 Re: Re: More bloat

by eiseli

Saturday December 14th, 2002 5:37 AM

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"Bugs regarding it had lots and lots of votes and long discussions, yet nobody seemed to really be bothered about it and instead, there were new mail features (...). Now don't get me wrong. I understand very well that I'm in no position to demand anything from anyone. And I'm not. People will work on whatever they feel like. I'm just expressing my regret that new features are being worked on while the old ones aren't polished yet."

I completely agree. Usually, I'm in the same position like you, just triaging bugs, reporting bugs and testing. However, lately I got involved a little bit more, especially with the mycroft project <> and thus with the search sidebar in Mozilla. Look at all the bugs in the search component. Most part of them are about the sidebar. This is IMHO the buggiest part in Mozilla, yet if it would be working correctly, you could use it as an argument "look what Mozilla has and other's dont". I'm thinking of the possibility to search several engines in one shot and compare the results in a nice XUL frame. There was one bug, <> which seemed to be fairly easy to fix, and since the owner of this component, Samir Gehani is overloaded with work, he was grateful I did that XUL polish. He reviewed it. Since it's my first contribution to the code, I wanted to make the things right and got another review from "Mr. Search" at Netscape, Robert John Churchill. He pointed out an easy improvement (adding icons) so I did it. Now it has been over 2 months that I'm requesting Super Review. I have asked several persons to SR the patch, I've mailed the drivers, I've nominated the bug for 1.3a, for 1.3b and what? asa rejects these nominations. (nothing against Asa here, he must have his reasons).

So, in a nutshell: people like macpeep complain about UI polishing, but cannot do the work. Others (in this case me) are doing it. Yet the work doesn't get into the tree for some reason that is _absolutely_ not obvious to me. This reason still has to be named. Believe me, seing my patch lying there for months without being able to do anything is more than frustrating. It's also sad to see that the Mozilla staff doesn't help beginner's code get into the trunk. They'll finally loose their patience and walk away. XUL is easy, anyone can make a lot of UI polishing, but obviously, this is not what the Mozilla team wants. Sad... but true.