Mozilla 1.3 Alpha Released

Friday December 13th, 2002

Mozilla 1.3 Alpha is out! This release introduces shedloads of new Mail & Newsgroups features (including Bayesian spam classification, message views and improved filtering), a new Bookmarks Quick Search bar (similar to the one found in Phoenix) and support for the Back and Forward buttons on the IntelliMouse Explorer. There's also improvements to the DOM Inspector and lots of other bug fixes. However, remember that this is only an alpha release, so expect bugs.

Builds are available from's Releases Page or directly from the FTP site. Check out the Release Notes for more info.

#19 Re: Re: Re: More bloat

by WillyWonka

Saturday December 14th, 2002 11:16 AM

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"Others (in this case me) are doing it. Yet the work doesn't get into the tree for some reason that is _absolutely_ not obvious to me. "

I have had the same problem in the past. If you don't follow the hacking mozilla instructions precisely, it won't get it. Also, you have to talk to the right people or else it just sits there. They never seem to reply (at least in my experience) saying "I'm the wrong person for the job" or "I'm too busy to review this patch at the moment". You just sit there waiting and waiting.

"This reason still has to be named. Believe me, seing my patch lying there for months without being able to do anything is more than frustrating. "

I know what that feeling is like.

"It's also sad to see that the Mozilla staff doesn't help beginner's code get into the trunk."

Now, to be fair, they have been working on this a little. On the hacking mozilla pages they now have a link which says "if it's a browser UI issue, send your reviews and super reviews to these people". Also, in the last bugzilla upgrade they added some confusing ?/+/- dropdown boxes which I believe are there to help get bugs reviewed.

"They'll finally loose their patience and walk away. XUL is easy, anyone can make a lot of UI polishing, but obviously, this is not what the Mozilla team wants. Sad... but true."

Most "newbies" (Are you really a newbie if you can help program a browser?) don't realize that actually programming the patch is only 1/4 or 1/3rd of the battle. You also need reviews, super reviews, and sometimes it needs to be approved as well if it is close to a release.

What I think would be helpful is a easy to follow checklist. The hacking mozilla document is too wordy and people skim over it. Maybe someone should redo it and split it up into a bunch of small html pages with hyperlinks for when people need more information on a particular subject. I dunno, just an idea.