Renamed Phoenix 0.5 Set for Release Next Week
Thursday November 28th, 2002
Blake Ross has posted an update on Phoenix 0.5 to the forums. The release of Phoenix 0.5 is set for next week with just a few issues remaining. One of these is a new name, so it won't be called Phoenix 0.5 by the time it comes out. You can read Blake's full message in the soon-to-be-renamed Phoenix General forum.
#1 Why not change the name of Mozilla too?
Thursday November 28th, 2002 8:09 AM
The fact that Mozilla 1.x is a Mozilla generation 5 browser is a bit confusing. Ohh well, its problably to late :-/
#2 We should put it up for vote
Thursday November 28th, 2002 11:13 AM
We should let the forum decide on the name. Basically just let people who are already members vote on the name. Anyone who joined before today's announcement gets to vote. While the developers are free to name it whatever they want, I do think it would be nice for the community to be involved as well.
A quick search in Google shows that the word phoenix is used in the name of many companies and organizations around the world. It's a common noun, about as generic as 386 or 486. How then can it have trade mark protection?
Nonetheless, if you feel a change is mandatory, why not incorporate phoenix into the new name? I suggest PhoenixBrowser.
Somewhere (Slashdot or here) was a really intriguing name offer: "Phoenis".
Is the plural of pheonix I think, and has a similar potentially humourous sounding name.
"Paragon" is a synonym of one of the meanings of Phoenix, "a person or thing of peerless beauty or excellence", perhaps that's a goer.
#5 Geee.. and all this time...
Thursday November 28th, 2002 4:07 PM
I thought that this was a mozilla bios project.. silly me.. it's a BROWSER
#6 Blake should read his log files :-)
Thursday November 28th, 2002 6:04 PM
Blake, I warned you about on IRC so eat dust :-)
#7 Re: Blake should read his log files :-)
Thursday November 28th, 2002 6:04 PM
err, ...about that...
#10 booo for me for pointing out things.
Thursday November 28th, 2002 11:11 PM
Um... why are new articles being posted about Pheonix on Mozillazine, before links to 1.2 are updated on the Buildbar?
Hopefully if 0.5 comes out... somebody will update the links for BOTH.... if they only update it for Pheonix things will start looking really fishy.
#13 Re: booo for me for pointing out things.
Friday November 29th, 2002 8:35 AM
"Um... why are new articles being posted about Pheonix on Mozillazine, before links to 1.2 are updated on the Buildbar? "Hopefully if 0.5 comes out... somebody will update the links for BOTH.... if they only update it for Pheonix things will start looking really fishy. "
Putting up new articles is much simpler than updating the Build Bar. There's no conspiracy.
I have a trademark for Morpheus (for image manipulation - morphing) while some other company has it trademarked for MP3 related things... this has not caused any problems, as they are trademarked for different purposes. I don't see why a BIOS and a Browser are not different enough to use the same name.
#12 Re: Morpheus
Friday November 29th, 2002 8:33 AM
Phoenix Technologies do make a browser. It's called FirstView Connect.
But if the *browser* isn't called Phoenix, do they really have a case?
Why not have Phoenix Technologies sponsor Pheonix the browser? Even if the sponsorship is just in the name, and maybe a volunteer programmer, I'm sure they and their own browser could benefit from the technologies involved
FirstView Connect seems to me more like software for digital TV set top boxes that include some form of web browsing capability. It doesn't appear (to me at least) to be a standalone web browser application like "the soon to be renamed" Phoenix, that you can download and install on your PC and/or Apple Mac. IMO, Phoenix Technologies would be seen be rather petty if they pursued the developers of "the soon to be renamed" Phoenix browser project, through the courts, due to issues overcopyright/trademark.
#17 PINP (GNU-like recursive acronym)
by alain_tesio <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Friday November 29th, 2002 7:22 PM
PINP Is Not Phoenix
Browser > Herbivore > Webivore