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Macworld Browser Comparison Features Mozilla, Chimera and Netscape

Saturday November 23rd, 2002

Bjarne D Mathiesen writes: "Macworld has published an online article comparing the different browsers available for Mac OS X. Frankly — in my opinion — they haven't done a very good job in discovering all of the features in Mozilla. The author mentions some third-party programs for blocking ads etc. but there's no mention of mozdev; and quote: 'But Netscape adds extra features such as an e-mail client, a chat interface' — then how about Mozilla? There's no mention of the Mozilla offerings in this regard. Then there's a mention of the built-in HTML validator in iCab (almost the only thing that does work) that is praised as handy for webdesigners, but no mention at all of the Mozilla Composer — I suppose that isn't handy?"

There's also several other errors. The author seems to be unaware that Netscape 7.0 includes tabbed browsing and implies that only Chimera (referred to throughout the article as Navigator) features pop-up blocking. There is some good news though: the article concludes that Gecko-based browsers could "mount a credible challenge to IE's dominance" and that Chimera's "speed and rendering fidelity make it the OS X browser to watch."


#1 chimera

by pizzach

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 4:46 PM

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That does give an interesting point. Is calling the Chimera browser "Navigator" mis-leading? Even though I like the name Navigator, people might confuse at as being Netscape Navigator I would think. Also, people might not make the connection that Chimera IS Navigator.

#4 Misleading? Nah...

by jesusX <jesus_x@mozillanews.org>

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 6:59 PM

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It happens all the time. By the way, I have a 7,000 carat diamond in my truck around the corner. It's in a truck that looks like a truck with 7,000 Diamond-brand carrots. :)

#2 iCab

by schapel

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 6:37 PM

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> the built-in HTML validator in iCab (almost the only thing that does work)

Nearly two years ago, I tried using the iCab validator to validate my web pages, but I discovered that it didn't find many serious HTML errors. That made it essentially useless for me, and I haven't used iCab since. Did they finally manage to get the HTML validator working?

#13 Re: iCab

by choess <choess@stwing.upenn.edu>

Sunday November 24th, 2002 7:26 PM

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Technically, it's not a validator; it's a "linter", like HTML Tidy, or so I understand.

#3 What's with the dumb name???

by robdogg

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 6:45 PM

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Chimera sounds too much like Cholera. Couldn't they pick anything else?

#7 Re: What's with the dumb name???

by FattMattP

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 11:56 PM

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> Chimera sounds too much like Cholera.

Shim-er-ahh sounds nothing like Kah-ler-rah.

#9 no dumb name at all !

by Xandrex <alexandre.ho_xdxmozillazine@m4x.org>

Sunday November 24th, 2002 5:57 AM

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a chimera is a monster from greek mythology : lion head and chest, goat belly, and snake tail.

#10 Re: XUL *could* become a killer app

by ndeakin

Sunday November 24th, 2002 11:47 AM

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The word chimera is pronounced with a k sound, not a ch sound. I assume the application is pronounced the same way.

#5 Surprized at the choice of the name Chimera

by PaulB <pbergsag@home.com>

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 7:09 PM

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A quick dictionary check finds these entries note especially definition 3:

"Definitions for "chimera"

Definiton 1 of 3 Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) ------- Chimera \Chime"ra\, n.; pl. {Chimeras}. [L. chimaera a chimera (in sense 1), Gr. ? a she-goat, a chimera, fr. ? he-goat; cf. Icel. qymbr a yearling ewe.] 1. (Myth.) A monster represented as vomiting flames, and as having the head of a lion, the body of a goat, and the tail of a dragon. ``Dire chimeras and enchanted isles.'' --Milton.

2. A vain, foolish, or incongruous fancy, or creature of the imagination; as, the chimera of an author. --Burke.

Definiton 2 of 3 Source: WordNet (r) 1.7 ------- Chimera n 1: (Greek mythology) fire-breathing she-monster with a lion's head and a goat's body and a serpent's tail; daughter of Typhon [syn: {Chimera}, {Chimaera}] 2: a grotesque product of the imagination [syn: {chimaera}]

Definiton 3 of 3 Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02) ------- Chimera

A modular, {X Window System}-based {World-Wide Web} {browser} for {Unix}. Chimera uses the {Athena} {widget} set so {Motif} is not needed. Chimera supports forms, inline images, {TERM}, {SOCKS}, {proxy server}s, {Gopher}, {FTP}, {HTTP} and local file accesses. Chimera can be extended using external programs. New {protocol}s can easily be added and alternate image formats can be used for inline images (e.g. {PostScript}).

Version 1.60 is available for {(<ftp://ftp.cs.unlv.edu/pub/chimera>)}.

{Home (<http://www.unlv.edu/chimera/>)}

Chimera runs on {Sun} {SPARC} {SunOS} 4.1.x, {IBM} {RS/6000} {AIX} 3.2.5, {Linux} 1.1.x. It should run on anything with {X11}R[3-6], {imake} and a {C} compiler.

(1994-11-08)

To me Chimera seems like an odd choice for the name of the browser for OS X, especially since one definition for Chimera is "a grotesque product of the imagination". As well there already appears to be a Unix/Linux browser of the same name. Does anyone know about the Unix Chimera refered to in definition #3 above? If it is still in use and has prior claims to the name Chimera, then may be best that Mozilla select a new name for the OS x browser Chimera.

#6 Chimera name and browser - wrong one?

by darinf <darinf@usa.net>

Saturday November 23rd, 2002 7:31 PM

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Not only should the name be surprising, but someone noticed the browser named Chimera just doesn't look like the one people talk about here.

<http://www.mozillazine.or…orums/viewtopic.php?t=345>

#12 Re: Chimera name and browser - wrong one?

by MozSaidAloha

Sunday November 24th, 2002 6:41 PM

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The Chimera you linked above is a *nix browser by the same name. It's not produced by the Chimera Navigator team.

#8 Chimera is called Navigator.

by jelwell

Sunday November 24th, 2002 3:28 AM

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I'm guessing the reporter and everyone that has posted so far doesn't actually run "Chimera", since "Chimera" has been going by the name "Navigator" for some time now. If you don't believe me try installing it. "Chimera" is mentioned in very few places, while "Navigator" is the name of the application and shows up in all the regular places you'd expect the application name to show up. Like "About Navigator", "Navigator Feedback", etc.

Joseph Elwell.

#11 Mozilla is kicking ass

by DeepFreeze3

Sunday November 24th, 2002 4:07 PM

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Mozilla "could mount a credible challenge to IE's dominance?" The way I see it, that's already happening. It'll only get better with time.