MozillaZine

Shock as MozillaZine Readers Turn to Slashdot for Accurate Information

Thursday October 31st, 2002

For our last poll, we asked you where else you go to get Mozilla news. 848 of you answered with Slashdot getting 30% of the vote, almost twice as much as its nearest rival, MozillaNews, with 17%. The third-placed 'None of the above' option was favoured by 16% of you, which frankly tells us very little. FUD specialist MozillaQuest came in fifth with 8% of the vote, which concerns us slightly. 5% of you rely on mainstream tech news sites such as CNET's News.com or eWeek while 4% of you prefer the weblog style of Blogzilla. Newcomers Planet Mozilla and MozFan didn't do so well with 1% and 0% of the vote respectively. NewsForge, with 1%, also did surprisingly badly, especially considering the amount of news we steal from them. Finally, 14% of you just go wherever telnet to port 80 will take you.

For our next poll, we'd like to know what your favourite Phoenix theme is. The options are taken from the lists at the mozdev Themes project and David Tenser's Phoenix Help so don't blame us if your favourite theme isn't listed. Go and vote now or just sit on the fence and watch the latest results.


#32 Re: MozillaZine concentrating on Phoenix too much? YES

by Blake <blaker@netscape.com>

Friday November 1st, 2002 6:34 AM

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> We (I) are far more interested in Mozilla

I'm not sure why you bothered saying "We" when you acknowledged that you meant "I". I point to the Phoenix forums (as compared with the Mozilla forums) as evidence of the high level of interest in Phoenix.

> (A) has the features we need (mail)

Mail is not a feature. It is a program.

> (B) the development process is more "communal" and less elitist

communal: Marked by collective ownership and control of goods and property.

This is not the way to develop a program. Collective ownership leads to neverending bickering in bugs which ultimately leads nowhere. It doesn't work, and Mozilla is testament to that. Phoenix is communal in the sense that we strongly encourage users (and non-users) to give us feedback in our forums. Yup, we don't grant checkin access to anyone under the sun. Imagine that! We still take patches from experienced people. And the process is very obviously working well.

> There are many exciting things happening in Mozilla that receive > little to no coverage here (but should): - spam filter (very cool > & promising feature) (LINK) - multiple signatures (LINK)

Your entire argument is that Mozillazine covers Phoenix too often. But Mozillazine does not cover every feature that gets added to Phoenix -- in fact, to my knowledge, it has never done so. So why would Mozilla get that treatment?

> There are so many newsworthy items and *issues* that could be > brought to our attention and discussed here.

So submit a coherent article. Mozillazine is largely run by its fans, who submit articles. In that sense, the articles you see are largely the result of fan interest.