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Shock as MozillaZine Readers Turn to Slashdot for Accurate Information

Thursday October 31st, 2002

For our last poll, we asked you where else you go to get Mozilla news. 848 of you answered with Slashdot getting 30% of the vote, almost twice as much as its nearest rival, MozillaNews, with 17%. The third-placed 'None of the above' option was favoured by 16% of you, which frankly tells us very little. FUD specialist MozillaQuest came in fifth with 8% of the vote, which concerns us slightly. 5% of you rely on mainstream tech news sites such as CNET's News.com or eWeek while 4% of you prefer the weblog style of Blogzilla. Newcomers Planet Mozilla and MozFan didn't do so well with 1% and 0% of the vote respectively. NewsForge, with 1%, also did surprisingly badly, especially considering the amount of news we steal from them. Finally, 14% of you just go wherever telnet to port 80 will take you.

For our next poll, we'd like to know what your favourite Phoenix theme is. The options are taken from the lists at the mozdev Themes project and David Tenser's Phoenix Help so don't blame us if your favourite theme isn't listed. Go and vote now or just sit on the fence and watch the latest results.


#21 Phoenix on Mac would be awful

by mpthomas

Friday November 1st, 2002 12:12 AM

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I have to admit, there are days when I wish someone would make a Mac build of Phoenix, because I'm one of those old fogeys still using Mac OS 9 (just like those old fogeys still using Windows 98). Chimera only runs on OS X, and Mozilla is excruciatingly slow -- so I'm stuck on Internet Explorer, wondering what a browser 40 percent faster than Mozilla feels like.

However, the fact is it's simply not worth having an official port of Phoenix to the Mac OS. Mac users tend to be quite finicky about user interfaces, and the Mac's user interface is *different* from that of Windows in many important ways. <http://developer.apple.com/ue/switch/windows.html> (Some of these differences can be overcome using XUL overlays, but not all of them.) So any browser with a UI designed for Windows -- such as Mozilla or Phoenix -- will suck pretty badly on the Mac, and vice versa.

So the number of Mac users who would use *any* XUL-based browser, rather than Chimera (on OS X) or Internet Explorer (on OS 8/9), is very, very small indeed. A `truly cross platform browser environment' is not a feature; it's a bug.

-- mpt