Phoenix 0.4 (Oceano) ReleasedTuesday October 29th, 2002Phoenix 0.4 builds have arrived. You can get builds for Windows and Linux from FTP but you're encouraged to read the release notes first. While there are a few new features to this release, like the return of type ahead find and IE-style www.<foo>.com autocomplete, most of the changes have been improvements to existing features like toolbar customization, tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking and keyboard shortcuts. Also new with this release are a handful of Phoenix themes available at the Phoenix Themes section of mozdev.org. Grab 0.4 and let the Phoenix team know what you think here and at the Phoenix discussion forums. sweet! Warning! Phoenix .4 on Win32 is *.03 MB larger* than Phoenix .3 was! We knew Phoenix would become a bloated app, it was only a matter of time! Just kidding, of course. Looks like another good release. Good job to everyone that was involved in making this release happen! but wtf??? Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pub/phoenix/releases/0.4/phoenix-0.4-win32.zip on this server. I also get: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pub/phoenix/releases/0.4/phoenix-0.4-win32.zip on this server. try ftp:// instead of http:// --Asa Try http://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/phoenix/releases/0.4/ instead. http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/30/051255.shtml?tid=154 I don't know what you all think, but this feature s*cks. I'm used to type in a new URL and hit ctrl-Enter in order to open in a new tab. I've had a look at the preferences, but obviously, there's not UI for removing this or for an alternative to open new URLs in a new tab. Just use Ctrl+T for a new tab Ok, I will get used to Alt-Enter. However, this was something undocumented ;-) And no, Ctrl-T doesn't do the job for me because it's more work. Ctrl-T, Ctrl-L, type in address, Enter (4 steps) compared to Ctrl-L, Type in address, Alt-Enter (3 steps). I know, that's just one step less, but it's a step that counts :) This are the steps: Ctrl+L: go to current URL Ctrl+C: copy it Ctrl+T: open a new Tab, the focus goes to the URLBar Ctrl+V: paste old URL Edit and hit ENTER Ctrl+Enter for www..com will help IE user migrate to Phoenix, I think thats why the feature was implemented. I didn't mean to edit my current URL, but just to enter a new URL and have it open in a new tab. Otherwise, agree with what you said. ...for me. I always thought this was a fantastic feature of IE, and was waiting for it in a Mozilla product. I wasn't even aware that it had been enabled.....great stuff! not only that (ok, Tab-Opening is moved to Alt+Enter), but it shows, that Mozilla/Phoenix is a US-American project. Why isn't this customisable? Do you expect Germans to search for .com pages? I understand the need at this stage of development for incompatible changes. However, Losing your bookmarks seems drastic. Is it really necessary, or can you save your old bookmarks.html file and copy into the new profile? >Is it really necessary, or can you save your old bookmarks.html file and copy into the new profile? Yes, you can copy your bookmarks.html file. If in doubt, export your bookmarks before toasting your profile, then import with 0.4 If you copy in files from an old profile you defeat the purpose of creating a new profile. If you decide to go this rout then don't file any bugs on Phoenix. --Asa Asa, I deleted all Phoenix directories and profiles. however I schleped along my cookies & passwords. Did the format of either of these files change? Everything is working great. - Bookmarks I exported and then imported. Anyone gotten the Linux binaries to run in emulation on FreeBSD 4.6.2? What needs to be installed? #16 Phoenix 0.4 looks better that Mozilla 1.2b in WinXby oliversl Wednesday October 30th, 2002 9:54 AM Using the Classic theme in WinXP, phoenix 0.4 looks great. Just like Mozilla 1.2a. I hope Mozilla 1.2 can look like Phoenix. Also, if you use the Luna theme, Phoenix looks just like IE. Funny :-) While there are a number of themes there, I don't see any for Phoenix that duplicate the size of icons in Wood or LittleMoz (my favorite themes). That's a major stumbling block for me using Phoenix. Any chance there will be an automated way to convert themes from Moz to Phoenix (even if years down the line) or are they just too different. They ported the changes that I made to the Element Properties window for mozilla. Too bad the right click menus/Element properties/and page info are still suseptable to the same JavaScript hacks as moz (But then again, I wasn't expecting those to be fixed in phoenix and not mozilla) Does anyone know if there are plans to implement Mozilla's URL bar autocomplete features? It's one of only two issues keeping me from switching from Moz to Phoenix, which I've been very impressed with (especially in regards to its speed). What do you mean? The Ctrl+Enter stuff? Ctrl+Enter is implemented in 0.4 just like IE. It is so cool #26 no, talking about other aspects of autocompleteby caseyperkins Wednesday October 30th, 2002 1:59 PM Specifically, here are the two Moz autocomplete features I'm really hoping to see in Phoenix: 1) Limit matches to only those actually **typed** in the address bar. That is, I type 'washingtonpost.com' in the addressbar. I only want that choice available in autocomplete, and not any pages on that site that I have gone to. This is a really handy Mozilla feature that makes it far superior to IE; I can't stand the clutter otherwise. 2) Autocompletion of best match **in** the address bar itself, so that I don't have to scroll down to choose the first option, but just press enter. Any chance of these getting in? Does anybody here know? Thanks. #34 Re: no, talking about other aspects of autocompletby oliversl Thursday October 31st, 2002 10:04 AM Ok, you are talking about the URL bar history drop down menu. Good sugestions, try looking if there is a bug# already posted. Gentlemen, You've done a bang up job. Here are the nice touches I simply love vs Mozilla: 1. I can finally move the URL textbox on the menu like in IE. Now I have 2 lines (menu/url bar and navigation/personal toolbar). Real estate has been set free. 2. You can finally middle click on the bookmark and have it open in another tab. 3. Replace tabs instead of append. Ok now questions and suggestions. 1. You gotta have the turbo option. It is simply a must on lower-end machines. It will net you a lot more testers. 2. Is the Classic and Modern theme supposed to be the same exact thing? Or is it just on my PC? > 2. Is the Classic and Modern theme supposed to be the same exact thing? Or is it just on my PC? Modern has no effect whatsoever, it has no browser/ directory; in fact modern.jar has practically no theming at all [at least in my source tree] Good job!!!!!!!!!! Look a screenshot : http://mozilla.tlk.fr/ecran_phoenix05.php it is bad that u keep talking about reducing size from rel 0.2 onwards, and r not able to reduce it beneath 7mb... pls do this as first priority. it would be nice for moz, phoenix (and derivatives) to be able to make shortcuts o n the desktop, they would then be more competitive with m$ie 6.x. :) tom it would be nice for moz, phoenix (and derivatives) to be able to make shortcuts o n the desktop, they would then be more competitive with m$ie 6.x. :) tom Anybody know why Phoenix (0.3, 0.4, now 0.5) won't open the URL in a new tab when I hit ALT+ENTER? (I dunno - I type in URL, hit ALT+ENTER, nothing happens.) Apparently it works for everyone else, so could my platform (Phoenix 0.5 on Win98 and yes, I also have MOZ 1.2.1 installed) I'm used to CTRL+ENTER, but would be willing to give up quest to disable satanic www.*.com CTRL+ENTER behavior and get used to ALT+ENTER if this could be made to work. Thanks. |