Mozilla 1.2 Beta Released

Wednesday October 16th, 2002

Mozilla 1.2 Beta is here! With this latest release come new features like link prefetching, viewing toolbars as text/images/both, GTK theme for Linux Mozilla (when in the classic theme), filter after the fact and filter logging in Mozilla Mail, bookmark groups as start page, and much, much more. Along with the new features come many stability and performance improvements and new code for yet to be enabled features like XFT font support. Check out the Release Notes for more details and a list of known issues. As usual, builds are available from's web site or FTP server.

#23 Oh, but it is...

by bmacfarland

Thursday October 17th, 2002 8:50 AM

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Despite what anyone in the Mozilla organization says, end-users can and do use Mozilla. I'm not saying that Mozilla has to cater to them, they certainly shouldn't if they don't want to.

From a practical standpoint though, where do you point someone who wants to try to a Gecko-based browser instead of IE? You can point them to Netscape, but everyone I know doesn't want links on their desktop for AOL. The don't want Winamp, RealPlayer, and whatever else is piggybacked on it. They don't want to go someplace to turn on the pop-up blocking. They want to use themes that may not be compatible with Netscape. They may want to try some of the functionality like tabs and mouse gestures, which didn't work for Netscape originally. Pointing someone to Netscape doesn't give any of the latest cutting edge stuff. It's hard enough to convince someone to go download a new browser (especially if it's not a broadband connection), learn a new look and feel (common response "you mean ctrl+enter doesn't insert 'www.' and '.com' in the location bar? This software is a piece of crap"), deal with sites that they deem "don't work" (common response "why doesn't a story on look right? There's a Netscape banner at the top of the page."), just so they can do what they already did before, surf the web.

Other Gecko-based browsers are great, and we really need them, but they are also trailing Mozilla sometimes by a couple of releases.

And what development knowledge do you really need to use Mozilla? I think I went in and editted some XUL once to move a button to a different toolbar, and even then I did it just out of curiousity. If there are only a couple of minor issues and it doesn't hurt the developers, then why not make it more friendly for the end-user? The only thing that I can think of that would be extra work for Mozilla would be supporting the end-user and Mozilla doesn't and shouldn't take that responsability. I think that's 98% of the reason why Mozilla likes to not be a end-user browser.

(All comments about Mozilla's intentions are my feelings and impressions from following for two years and do not represent Mozilla's actual thoughts, opinions, or intentions. All comments about end-user's feelings have been gathered over the last year or so of trying to extend Gecko-based browsers to friends and family.)