What is Thunderbird?

Wednesday October 9th, 2002

Blake Ross has posted some details about Thunderbird to the Phoenix General forum. Thunderbird (formerly Minotaur) is a lightweight stand-alone mail client that will accompany Phoenix.

#40 Re: Are you sure?

by AlexBishop <>

Friday October 11th, 2002 9:18 AM

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"According to Daniel Glazman of Netscape ( <> ), there has been at least one Netscape developer working full time on Phoenix."

Read the relevant bits again carefully: "By the way, one quoted line above contains a false assertion since one Netscape engineer works full time on Phoenix. Phoenix is therefore not independant of Netscape... well, CaScadeS became a Netscape thing at the very second I started doing something about it from my desk, from my workstation, using its network, during working hours. You don't believe it ? Be sure a lawyer will believe it. Can you be 100% affirmative that the person I am thinking of never ever touched a single line of Phoenix in these conditions ?... Addendum : I never said that Blake is being paid by Netscape to work on Phoenix. Check my exact words."

I think what he's saying is that although no Netscape developers are being paid by Netscape to work on Phoenix, they are using Netscape resources to do it and that therefore Netscape has some ownership rights to Phoenix. Kind of like the way most employment contracts say, "If you invent anything while working for us, it's ours." They can justify this by saying that the employee used some of the expertise s/he got from the training that s/he was given (since the training was paid for by the employer, they can claim that they own all the results of it).

I'm not saying that this situation is right or that Netscape would try to exercise control over Phoenix, just trying to explain what I inferred from Glazman's comments. If just using Netscape resources does mean that Phoenix is owned by Netscape then I guess so is MozillaZine, as I'm almost certain that Kerz has done some things to the site while at work (or at the very least, thought about it on company time).