Phoenix 0.1 Coming Soon

Thursday September 19th, 2002

Blake Ross writes: "We are targetting a Phoenix 0.1 for Monday. Please be sure to hammer on the nightlies, keeping in mind that this is merely a 0.1 release. Please check to see that your bug is not reported before filing. If it's a big issue, we're probably already aware of it. Thanks."

#8 Ok

by Blake <>

Thursday September 19th, 2002 3:45 PM

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Ok, sorry for snapping. Unlike Mozilla milestones, Phoenix milestones are extremely controlled. The list of bugs targetted for a given milestone generally /is/ the list of bugs to be fixed and features to be implemented for that milestone. We're trying to remain more bug-driven than date-driven, such that if the list hits zarro and we're still a week away from our guestimated date, we'll release at that point anyway.

So, the roadmap links to our various milestone buglists. We'll probably only think about 1 or 2 milestones ahead at a time. As you can see, some new features we have planned for 0.2 include an overhauled download manager, a new IE-style form filling feature to replace the current wallet, and a global history Go menu.

As for what Phoenix is in general, it's really to show what Mozilla could be if it wasn't being dragged down by (a) too many people checking in (and too many not knowing what they're doing) and (b) a review system obstacle course, which is needed because of (a). It's supported and backed by, who are considering replacing the trunk with it as it matures. It's intended to be far less geeky than Mozilla, and it's also something like 40% faster to startup and 20% faster to open a new window on slower machines, because it's written by people intimately familiar with xul.

We expect Phoenix to move more quickly than the trunk FE, because there's no review system and there are very few people checking in. For example, customizable toolbars was done in a night or two. As for why you'd want to use it instead of Mozilla, well, the list of reasons is fairly small right now but will grow over time. Reasons now might include: Phoenix has history and bookmarks quicksearch, and customizable toolbars, and is a lot faster, and has bookmarks undo/redo, and a simpler interface, and better preference defaults. And I think its find dialog looks better :-)