Phoenix Nightly Builds Now Available
Thursday September 5th, 2002
Phoenix (formerly known as mozilla/browser) is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component. It is not related to Project Piglet (also previously known as mozilla/browser), which was forked from pre-Phoenix mozilla/browser code.
UPDATE! Also check out the Phoenix project page which has some more information about the project.
by SubtleRebel <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sunday September 8th, 2002 2:32 AM
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Apparently you just have a very closed mind regarding the word closed.
"He was correct that there was a time when phoenix developers were't soliciting bug reports for the Phoenix UI. This was because bug reports wouldn't have been useful."
The reason _why_ they closed the door on receiving bug reports is irrelevant; the fact remains that that door was closed. All amutch did was ask if that door had been openned.
"There were a few files among tens of thousands in Phoenix where bug reports and other participation wasn't being solicited. "
Those few "limited access" files were all that made it Phoenix instead of Mozilla; the other "tens of thousands" of files were the foundation that the Phoenix project was being built on. As I said before, you can build a closed project that is 99% Mozilla. Your argument that changes to Mozilla automatically affect any project built from Mozilla is simply not true; if my project removed the Tools menu and you checked in code to add an item to the Tools menu, my project would not be affected. Also if you made a change to Mozilla that I did not want in my project then all I have to do is make a patch to my project that overrides your code. Or at any point I can make my own branch off of Mozilla so that no new Mozilla patches would have any affect on my project. I would have absolute control over what did and did not go into my project regardless of the fact that it was based upon open source; because I would have that control, I think it would be fair for someone to say that my project is closed to outsiders.
There all kinds of way that a project can be closed, but for some reason you seem to believe that the only way that saying "closed project" is the same thing as saying "closed source project." Personally I think that the extra word adds extra meaning.
Regardless I am done with this discussion.