#1 What in the new versions?
by ecarlson
Sunday August 25th, 2002 8:34 AM
What has changed in these new versions since the 1.0 final release?
- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/
#2 Oops, that is "What's in the new versions?"
by ecarlson
Sunday August 25th, 2002 8:36 AM
Why can't we correct our posts?
#3 Re: What in the new versions?
by asa
Sunday August 25th, 2002 10:25 AM
bonsai.mozilla.org will tell you. I hope to have the 1.1 "What's New" section of the release notes finished by tomorrow but you can get a pretty good idea by reading the 1.1alpha and 1.1beta release notes. We don't take new features in the 1.1final polish and cleanup cycle so there won't be any significant additions to the What's New section.
--Asa
#5 What's changed...
by dgk
Sunday August 25th, 2002 2:53 PM
Well, for 1.1 bugs 164086 and 163598. As us plebs aren't authorised to read Bug 164086, that means that Bonsai will not tell us what changes have been made recently. So Asa, how about telling us what is going on?
#6 Re: What's changed...
by asa
Sunday August 25th, 2002 4:13 PM
There have been over 500 bugs resolved as fixed on the 1.0.1 branch since Mozilla 1.0 was released and there have been over 1500 additional bugs fixed for 1.1. Out of that list of fixes there have been a handful of security fixes which will, according to the Mozilla Security Bug Policy http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/security-bugs-policy.htmlhttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/security-bugs-policy.html be opened to the public as soon the bug reporters and the mozilla.org security group are ready to do so (probably after 1.0.1 and 1.1 have been released). So if you want details about all of the fixes that are new to these upcoming releases then ask bonsai. If you want to know about a small handful of security bugs out of the more than a thousand fixes that have happened since 1.0 then you'll have to wait until those bugs are made public.
--Asa
#16 Thanks, but . . .
by ecarlson
Sunday August 25th, 2002 9:51 PM
Thanks, I read the "What's new" sections for 1.1alpha and 1.1beta. I'm looking forward to reading the What's new sections for the two new versions.
But, I went to bonsai.mozilla.org, and couldn't figure out how to get it to tell me what has been fixed between 1.00 and 1.01, or what has been fixed between 1.00 and 1.1. How do I do this?
- Eric, [link="http://www.invisiblerobot.com/"]InvisibleRobot.com[/link]
#26 Re: Thanks, but . . .
by asa
Monday August 26th, 2002 2:03 AM
There will be nothing more in the What's New section than what's in the 1.1alpha and beta What's New lists.
With Bonsai you can query for changes between specific dated and on specific branches.
#12 MARQUEE :(
by Ark42
Sunday August 25th, 2002 8:47 PM
Since when did Mozilla start supporting marquee? I downloaded the latest-1.1 version and upgraded from 1.1-beta, and suddenly text is scrolling accross the screen on some certain sites. I check my other computer which still has the official 1.1-beta and it does not scroll there. Select the line of text that is scrolling and view-selection-source, and its in a marquee tag. Isnt that a IE-specific thing?
#13 MARQUEE and BLINK
by bamm
Sunday August 25th, 2002 9:10 PM
Yes, Mozilla now supports both <marquee> and <blink>.
#15 how annoying, is there a pref to shut off? n/t
by stylo
Sunday August 25th, 2002 9:36 PM
#17 Re: MARQUEE and BLINK
by Ark42
Sunday August 25th, 2002 10:01 PM
Apparently Mozilla doesnt support Marquee all the way yet. . . here is a good example of how to annoy Mozilla users with a really slow-paced scroll that will be much faster in IE:
marquee scrollAmount=1 scrollDelay=3 trueSpeed=true
Apparently Mozilla doesnt support the 'trueSpeed' parameter, but more importantly, we need a option to disable this as well as blink :)
#18 Disable them
by eiseli
Sunday August 25th, 2002 10:04 PM
Isn't it possible to do this with a user stylesheet? For BLINK I am sure:
blink {text-decoration:none !important;}
My guess for disabling MARQUEE:
marquee {text-decoration: none !important;}
But I didn't try. Somebody can comment on this?
#31 how to disable marquee
by Sander
Monday August 26th, 2002 3:42 AM
In the chrome/ directory of your profile, create a file userContent.css (if it doesn't exist yet), and add this line:
marquee { -moz-binding: none; }
You can also add overflow: auto; and display: block; for better display.
The bug for creating a pref for marquee and turning it off by default is 161109:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161109 - it's got a patch by David Baron.
#25 Re: Re: MARQUEE and BLINK
by MozSaidAloha
Monday August 26th, 2002 1:49 AM
I thought they were dead....????
#23 The Site Navigation Bar is back!
by StigN
Monday August 26th, 2002 12:06 AM
Where can I read about the LINK-tags supported by the Site Navigation Bar? Is there a list somewhere? Is it some kind of standard?
#29 List of link types
by eiseli
Monday August 26th, 2002 3:04 AM
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#type-links
#39 Re: The Site Navigation Bar is back!
by GAThrawn
Tuesday August 27th, 2002 8:32 AM
Other than surfing a few sites that use it extensively (eg Bugzilla), try this list (copied from some bug or other ages ago):
The main site navigation bar consists of the following eight items:
* 'Top' button -- <link rel="start" />
* 'Up' button -- <link rel="parent" />, <link rel="up" />, etc.
* 'First' button -- <link rel="first" />
* 'Previous' button -- <link rel="prev" />
* 'Next' button -- <link rel="next" />
* 'Last' button -- <link rel="last" />
* 'Document' menu -- see below
* 'More' menu -- see below
The 'Document' menu supports the following:
* 'Table of Contents' item -- <link rel="contents" />
* 'Chapters' menu -- Any number of <link rel="chapter" />
* 'Sections' menu -- Any number of <link rel="section" />
* 'Subsections' menu -- Any number of <link rel="subsection" />
* 'Appendices' menu -- Any number of <link rel="appendix" />
* 'Glossary' item -- <link rel="glossary" />
* 'Index' item -- <link rel="index" />
The 'More' menu supports the following:
* 'Help' item -- <link rel="help" />
* 'Search' item -- <link rel="search" />
* 'Authors' item -- <link rel="author" />, <link rev="made" />, etc.
* 'Copyright' item -- <link rel="copyright" />
* 'Bookmarks' menu -- Any number of <link rel="bookmark" />
* 'Other Versions' menu -- Any number of <link rel="alternate" />
* Additional menus -- Unrecognised values, e.g. one or more <link rel="pineapple" />, receive their own menu
Also see Bug 103034 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103034 LINK evangelism
#40 Aaagh Mo'zine killed the formatting!
by GAThrawn
Tuesday August 27th, 2002 8:37 AM
See http://www.jard.co.uk/net/mozlink.txt for a plain text version with the formatting preserved.
#4 1.1 release candidates
by masi
Sunday August 25th, 2002 2:11 PM
Will there be rc versions of 1.1? Or does Mozilla o straight from 1.1beta to 1.1?
Masi
#7 Re: 1.1 release candidates
by asa
Sunday August 25th, 2002 4:16 PM
There aren't official "RC" versions of 1.1 (where official means 'moved from the nightly directory to the releases directory'). If you want to test the latest candidate builds ("release candidates") then you can get the builds from the latest 1.1 directory at mozilla.org's ftp site http://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-1.1/ .
--Asa
#30 1.1 release candidates
by masi
Monday August 26th, 2002 3:23 AM
Thanx. So does that mean only 1.0 is a long lived branch? I mean there will be perhaps 1.0.2 and so on but no 1.1.x.
Masi
#36 Re: 1.1 release candidates
by asa
Monday August 26th, 2002 12:13 PM
1.0 is a long lived branch. There will perhaps be a 1.0.2, 1.0.3, 1.0.4, etc. released from that branch. See http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html#tree-management
--Asa
#8 rpms of the 1.1 version?
by noelley
Sunday August 25th, 2002 7:35 PM
I'm happy to test versions to try and find problems and report bugs etc, but like others I know I'm not that keen to go through compiling each new build. Any chance of rpms being available? I know that it'll be more work, but it'd also be more eyes looking for probs.
cheers,
noel
#24 Re: rpms of the 1.1 version?
by turi
Monday August 26th, 2002 12:28 AM
There are tar.gz-builds available. No need to compile it.
To test it as user, do:
tar -xzf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz
cd mozilla-installer
./mozilla-installer
... and there you go.
#9 Mozilla 1.0.1 or Mozilla 1.1?
by pulsorock
Sunday August 25th, 2002 7:39 PM
Hello,
What's the difference between Mozilla 1.0.1 and Mozilla 1.1 if any?
Thanks for your great work! :-)
#10 Re: Mozilla 1.0.1 or Mozilla 1.1?
by kberk
Sunday August 25th, 2002 7:50 PM
1.0.1 contains bugfixes to 1.0.0.
1.1 contains the same bugfixes + new features.
#11 Re: Re: Mozilla 1.0.1 or Mozilla 1.1?
by pulsorock
Sunday August 25th, 2002 7:58 PM
Thanks... so if you would recommend me between these two, you will say 1.1?
#14 Re: Mozilla 1.0.1 or Mozilla 1.1?
by bamm
Sunday August 25th, 2002 9:26 PM
Personally, I stick with 1.0.1 cause I love it's stability and familiarity. It's like 1.0 without the oingo. And it's great to develop skins for because they would work in Netscape 7.
But most people would go for 1.1 because it has a few extras not found in 1.0/1.0.1.
#19 Re: Re: Re: Mozilla 1.0.1 or Mozilla 1.1?
by VMD
Sunday August 25th, 2002 10:26 PM
I have chosen 1.1 for a silly reason, really. When I do a "right click" with my mouse, "Open Link in New Window" is on top, like previous Netscapes. In 1.0 & 1.0.1 it is second to/below "Open Link in New Tab". I prefer Windows over Tabs.
#21 Tabs vs Windows
by ecarlson
Sunday August 25th, 2002 11:50 PM
Tabs are so cool, and I have my middle mouse button set to "open link in new tab" (in Mozilla 1.0). But maybe you can set your middle mouse button to "open link in new window" since you prefer windows. It's a lot easier than using the right-click menu.
- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/
#22 Re: Tabs vs Windows
by MozSaidAloha
Sunday August 25th, 2002 11:58 PM
How did you do that? Please tell!
#28 Re: Tabs vs Windows
by turi
Monday August 26th, 2002 2:57 AM
By default, a middle click on a link opens the link in a new window, you can change the default under edit/preferences/navigator/tabbedBrowsing. Make sure that no other programm takes over your mouse button for something else (like the Logitech driver for simulating doubleClick or similar).
#33 Re: Re: Tabs vs Windows
by MozSaidAloha
Monday August 26th, 2002 8:41 AM
#20 Still no release?
by ph1nn
Sunday August 25th, 2002 11:24 PM
wow, im surprized they still havent released 1.1, its seemed like so many times they've said in the next few days or somehting.
Oh well, im not complaining, its just an observation, i love the mozilla team its just i cant help the anticipation sometimes :)
#34 Re: Still no release?
by VMD
Monday August 26th, 2002 9:49 AM
I know what you mean. I check in several times a day to see if it has been released. I will check in again later after I get back from school which starts today.
#27 GTK+ 2.0 port?
by Kirby
Monday August 26th, 2002 2:16 AM
What's the status on GTK+ 2.0 support? Will I get antialiasing for free by enabling GDK_USE_XFT=1?
#37 Re: GTK+ 2.0 port?
by hubick
Monday August 26th, 2002 1:51 PM
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126919
#32 1.1 untranslatable?
by TheK
Monday August 26th, 2002 6:39 AM
will 1.1 really be shiped with bug 164496 open? This would be a compleate showstopper outside the english speaking countries.
#35 Fixed and checked in
by eiseli
Monday August 26th, 2002 10:38 AM
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164496#c8
#38 NS 7.0
by WillyWonka
Monday August 26th, 2002 5:02 PM
Interesting. The NS 7.0 directory is now on the server... Permission Denied though :( ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/
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