Mozilla 1.1 Beta Released

Monday July 22nd, 2002

Asa Dotzler writes: "It's here! Mozilla 1.1 Beta. New to this release are full-screen mode for Linux, BiDi Hebrew improvements, Arabic shaping improvements for Linux, and significant improvements to Venkman, the best cross-platform JavaScript debugger on the planet. Get your binaries and release notes at And if you're confused about all these alpha and beta releases (and what ever happened to that 1.0 branch?) then take a look at the nice picture available at the Mozilla Development Roadmap."

#91 Testing on a 133MHz 5-year-old+ PC is pointless...

by rkl

Thursday July 25th, 2002 5:27 AM

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> Original Pentium 133 MHz, 80 MB of RAM.

This is, as we should point out, well below the minimum spec that is quoted on the site for Intel hardware running Mozilla (it wants 233Mhz as a minimum spec). There is a reason that minimum specs are quoted - it's so that users below that spec don't experience slowness/memory problems.

Personally, I'm still surprised that 64MB RAM is the minimum - a goodly chunk of that will be taken up by the OS (particularly Windows 2000 or XP) and any app run after that will inevitably be swapping.

If you really must run Mozilla on a sub-233Mhz machine, as you insist on doing, that I would suggest increasing your RAM (e.g. to 256MB RAM if you can manage it, but at least to 128MB RAM). RAM has been extremely cheap in the past couple of years and is a very cost-effective way of speeding up "slow" hardware.

BTW, I bought my current PC in April for 700 pounds (about $1100) and its spec is probably about 10 times what that 133MHz is - needless to say, Mozilla flies on it (in both WinXP and Linux) and the difference between Mozilla and Opera/IE is basically negligible in terms of speed on that hardware (and my machine will be considered slow in 3 years time !).

PCs bought new in the last 3 years (as another poster said, the typical corporate lifecycle is 3 years) all well exceeded the 133MHz spec, so testing 133Mhz machines with Mozilla seems somewhat "mad" to me. If you must use Gecko on such old hardware, try K-Meleon at <>, but be prepared to lose some of the advanced features of Mozilla if you do.

BTW, Opera, for those who have forgotten, is close-sourced, has abysmal JavaScript support (many JS-driven sites that work fine in IE and Mozilla fail in Opera 6) and is adware (costs you money to remove them). Quite why anyone would run Opera on recent hardware instead of Mozilla is anyone's guess - Opera's *only* forte in my books is that it uses less RAM than Mozilla, so will work better on low-memory machines. It has no other benefits I can see.