Comparatively Speaking...

Monday July 1st, 2002

Linux Online recently compared the major Linux browsers, including the Mozilla-based trio of Mozilla 1.0, Netscape 6.2 and Galeon. Reviewer Michael J Jordan praises Mozilla's stability, tabbed browsing, rendering and customisation.

As mentioned by fondacio on our forums, the International Herald and Tribune took a look at Mozilla, Opera and NeoPlanet (note that the site doesn't seem to work in some builds of Mozilla). Reviewer Lee Dembart says that "Mozilla is impressive and has it all over Opera." He especially likes the ability to block pop-ups, tabbed browsing and pipelining.

UPDATE! tuxracer writes: "I've put up a browser comparison list, comparing various features that affect usability and W3C standards compliance. It compares Mozilla 1.0, Netcaptor 7.01, Internet Explorer 6.0 (Windows), and Internet Explorer 5.x (Mac)."

#134 Re: Regardless, 86,000 in one day > 42,000 in a year

by kristen

Friday July 12th, 2002 4:32 AM

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I'll sum it up for you real easy here. 86,000 in a day, 1.2 million in a couple of weeks. When compared to traffic deaths, your whole premise behind that is that those figures were a result of web browsing. You are heavily betting that because NIMDA could and did infect a web page that that is how and why it accumulated such a 'casualty' rate. You have no proof at all to show me that even 2% of that total was the result of web browsing.

Here's what I do know, though. I have seen other 'email only' virus/worms spread very rapidly, in a short period of time, even when a user was required to execute an attachment of the email. Simple common sense would dictate that something would spread even easier if a user didn't even have to execute an attachment. I also know that credible agencies such as SARC categorize both NIMDA and Klez as primarily 'mass mailing worms'.

As far as producing the number of web surfers to get a virus/worm via web surfing and comparing that to automobile fatality rates. You simply can't. There is, though, more than enough evidence to show how fast email viruses/worms spread, even when a user is required to execute an attachment. This is why I had repeatedly asked for any kind of significant data regarding virus/worms that were spread via web browsing only. The fact is, there isn't.

Another interesting thing during the course of reading the links posted here is the 'cost of viruses/worms'. Apparantly, Asa didn't bother to read much of a link he provided, but it was still interesting, nonetheless:


This was kind of off topic, kind of not, but it was interesting to read in that article all of the 'experts' who find such cost estimates absurd, some even questioning what most of those things are beyond being a nuisance. Anyways, it was the end of the article that made me giggle a bit:


"We're starting to hear reports from people, stating that they know for a fact that their co-workers are opening viruses to get a 'vacation day.'" Erbschloe said sometimes it's a deliberate act of sabotage because employees hate their job, or they just want to knock the network offline so that they can relax for a day.

"That may explain why even the 'dumb viruses' are as effective as they are."


Back to the main issue. Here is the real clincher that you may want to digest for a bit. Now that the focus is on statistics regarding being killed in a car wreck several times over, for arguments sake, what if I had said 'being killed in an accident.'

I'm all ears. ;)