Mozilla 1.0 has a 0.4 Percent Usage Share —

Monday June 24th, 2002

ZDNet is reporting that Mozilla 1.0 has gained a 0.4 percent usage share since its launch on June 5th. Citing research from, the article notes that Internet Explorer 6's market share grew to 46.4 percent during the month ending June 21st, despite the fact that IE's overall share went down slightly. The Mozilla-based Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1 has a 0.3 percent share.

#71 Re: Re: Yeah, that's exactly what I was getting at

by jsebrech

Thursday June 27th, 2002 1:35 PM

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Points to you for pointing out that apt-get doesn't upgrade the profile. The rest though ... well ... I think the problem is we're talking about two different things.

I did read the context. I talked about the install instead of the profile, because you did. With your script. It's what sparked me to react, because it hit a nerve. Maybe I should have let my mommy proofread, because in retrospect my post's slashdot-rate was too high. I'll expound on why the very existance of your script made me mad.

As far as I can see there is no difference between a script and a program, apart from compilation. They both have source files written in programming languages, only one requires you to type an extra command before you can execute it. Now, it may be easier to learn the bash shell programming language than it is to learn C (although plenty of my friends learnt C first and bash later, and a lot of them would disagree with this), but in essence it's all in the domain of the programmer.

Now, in your eyes writing a script may be simple, but I can assure you that at least 90 percent of the planet is incapable or unwilling to ever learn this. And why should they? That's why we're here, the programmers. It's our job to do this stuff for them. (And, btw, if your script is so great, why are you the only one who has it? Ever thought about placing it online so other people could use it?)

That's why I bashed you, or rather, your post. The problem I see with a solution like yours is that it's incredibly elitist, but in a technological way. Regular people can never use your approach. They're tied to what mozilla gives them. And that offers them sufficiently less than what you have. You're technologically richer than they are, just because you're a programmer. It shouldn't be that way.

I should talk ofcourse, even I don't use mozilla's installer. But that's because there's a security bug in 1.0 and they don't provide security upgrades and debian does. (In addition to the fact that the debian installer cleans up after itself.)

So, why don't I program for the mozilla project and help out instead of bitching out here on mozillazine? Good question, huh. I've been asking myself that lately. That's why I've recently picked up XUL. Maybe there's hope for me yet ;)