Mozilla 1.0 Released!

Tuesday June 4th, 2002

Mozilla 1.0 is here! The final 1.0 builds, representing four years of development work by the open source community, are now available for download. The release of Mozilla 1.0 makes an important statement: mozilla.org now believes that the goals specified when the project began (and since enshrined in the Mozilla 1.0 Manifesto) have been met.

Mozilla 1.0 also represents maturity and dependability. Many of the Mozilla APIs, such as XUL, have now been frozen, providing guaranteed compatibility for developers building on the Mozilla toolkit. In addition, mozilla.org will continue to maintain the 1.0 branch as a stable and long-lived baseline on which vendors and other distributors may work. Further additive changes (mainly critical fixes) will be released from the 1.0 branch as 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 etc.

Mozilla 1.0 is available for download from mozilla.org's web site and FTP server. The Mozilla 1.0 Release Notes have also been updated.

MozillaZine would like to thank all the developers, testers, bug reporters, documentation writers, vendors and community members who have helped to make Mozilla such a success. We are proud of our years of service to the Mozilla community and intend to continue providing our growing audience with the latest in Mozilla news and advocacy for years to come.

[Mozilla 1.0 MZ Homepage]

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#1 Congratulations!!!

by ahuebenett

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 10:59 AM

I want to thank everybody beeing involved into the development of Mozilla. Everone of you did a great job. Party hard!!

regards, Alex

#2 Re: Congratulations!!!

by choess

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:01 AM

Rheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

#3 Excellent News

by codom

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:03 AM

This is truly a milestone in software devolopment.

#4 Excellent News

by codom

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:04 AM

This is truly a milestone in software devolopment.

#5 Excellent News

by codom

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:04 AM

This is truly a milestone in software devolopment.

#6 No more forum?

by schauvea

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:06 AM

1.0 is there but the "forums" link has disapeared in http://www.mozillazine.org/.

Luckilly,it is still available via the comments page.

#7 Re: No more forum?

by kerz

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:14 AM

We don't want you chewing up our bandwidth with the forums today :).

jason

#8 omedetou!

by ryuzi

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:14 AM

how big '1.0'!

#97 Re: omedetou!

by AlexBishop

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:45 PM

"how big '1.0'!"

480 pixels x 363 pixels to be precise. I think it was Jason's idea. Looks cool though. :-)

Alex

#9 Is this final?

by LukeyBoy

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:16 AM

My titlebar still has the build ID, which isn't something I'd leave in a 1.0 release :-)

#11 Re: Is this final?

by aroolaart

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:29 AM

This is not uncommon so I wouldn't worrry about it and I'm glad it's there so I know what build I'm using.

#45 Re: Is this final?

by tny

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:04 PM

Remember, even 1.0 is not intended for end users, but for developers. That it happens to be the best damned browser for end-users, too, is a just a happy accident . . .

#64 Re: Is this final?

by rickst29

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:20 PM

You can always run fullscreen to remove the titlebar completely. I think that with the large number of platforms and builds, and the future bugfix release cycle (1.0.1, 1.0.2, etc.) that showing the build ID is not a bad use of desktop space. That's just my personal opinion, I'm not big in the community.

#103 Re: Is this final?

by Radiowriter

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 9:54 PM

I was hoping that the final release would exclude the Build ID, too. Not a huge problem, though.

Congratulations to what appears to be a huge cast of contributors to what is now my browser of choice. Thank you for a remarkable piece of software.

#117 It is ugly...

by Fireball1244

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:14 AM

Having the build ID in the titlebar is pretty tacky. I'd consider it a "bug" actually. Or at the very least, brain dead UI design. It clutters up the titlebar, and detracts from the "complete" feel of the browser.

#119 Ugly it may be but . . .

by DJGM2002

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:29 AM

. . . it does help with bug reports and crash reports.

#182 It is ugly...

by Fireball1244

Thursday June 6th, 2002 5:48 PM

Then put it in the "About" window.

The look of a product is very important. Putting the build info in the titlebar makes Mozilla look incomplete, like its still a work in progress.

All software is a work in progress, but the point of major version releases is that they set you up for quite some time. People downloading version 1.0 shouldn't worry that they need to go get a new build next week. If you're going to put any number up there, put the version number.

Mozilla is a very polished project. I'm just sorry to see they left one last glaring smudge right at the top of the window.

#121 Re: Is this final?

by sconest

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:46 AM

If you really want it gone, you can edit the navigator-title.dtd file which is found in the en-US.jar and change "{&buildId.label;}" by whatever you want.

#161 Re: Re: Is this final?

by LukeyBoy

Thursday June 6th, 2002 9:46 AM

Hey nice one! That worked great!

#181 Re: Is this final?

by Radiowriter

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:31 PM

What if you're NOT a programmer? I looked at the file in WordPad and even found the dtd file. After that, it's like giving me a wrench and asking me to fix the space shuttle.

I don't suppose there's an easy explanation...

#189 I think you're doing it all wrong, try this

by thegoldenear

Friday June 7th, 2002 5:15 AM

come on... in NO WAY do you need to be a "programmer" to achieve this. you sound as though you're making the mistake of opening the JAR file straight into WordPad

silly!

can't you see that all you get is a load of garbage? yes, but you didn't figure that you'd taken the wrong path, so you assumed it was someone else's fault

the JAR file is a compressed file format, like a ZIP file

here's what you should do:

- using a compression utility (i.e. PowerArchiver, but presumably the inferior WinZip does the same) open the mozilla\chrome\en-US.jar file so that you can see what files it contains;

- find the NAVIGATOR.DTD file in the list (not NAVIGATOR-TITLE.DTD as the previous poster instructed);

- double click on it or do whatever is required with your operating system to open it into a plain text editor (i.e. NotePad, you're better off not using WordPad as its more than just a plain text editor, and you're better usi8ng a fully fledged plain text editor such as NoteTab Light or something)

- find the line with the {&buildId.label;} text (Edit -> Find);

- change that {&buildId.label;} to whatever text, if any, that you want to appear in your title

- save the file

- close the plain text editor

- the compression utility should recognise the file within the JAR package has changed and prompt you asking if you want it to re-compile the package

- run Mozilla. if you did anything wrong it will tell you where the mistake is

#205 Re: I think you're doing it all wrong, try this

by sconest

Sunday June 9th, 2002 2:25 AM

It is navigator-title.dtd in 1.0 and navigator.dtd in the trunk

#211 Re: I think you're doing it all wrong, try this

by thegoldenear

Monday June 10th, 2002 6:19 AM

yeah sorry, as I pressed 'SUBMIT' that thought did come into my mind

#160 Re: Is this final?

by MXN

Thursday June 6th, 2002 8:49 AM

I remember that in Netscape 6 PR1, the Build ID was in the status bar, right next to the security indicator. I liked that design better, but I guess it took up too much room from the status text for those who use the lower resolutions.

- mxn

#10 Congrats to all!

by TheMatt

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:16 AM

Thank you for making a browser so good that IE is barely used anymore (at least on my box).

#12 Can't believe it

by flalvare

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:31 AM

Well, good job to everybody, a lot of effort, a lot of people, a lot of difficulties, a lot of camaraderie, and finnaly, a browser that's a LOT better and clear in development than we used to have.

#13 congratulations!

by macpeep

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:33 AM

Congratulations to everyone involved in the project!! I'm already looking forward to 1.1 - and beyond! This is the start of a great success story!

#14 WOOOHOOOO!!!

by Waldo

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:34 AM

It's been a very very long time coming. I've got it installed now.

Good times, wish I could make it to the party...

Congrats all 'round. We did it! W

#15 Congratulations!

by tny

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:38 AM

You did it!

Thanks for all your hard work making an OS browser you can all be proud of.

#16 congrats

by ywwg

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:41 AM

congratulations. It's been a long ride. hopefully this is only the beginning. wishlists for 2.0 anyone?

#127 Top 10 RFEs, and my wishlist

by tepples

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:25 AM

> wishlists for 2.0 anyone?

A bugzilla search for "rfe" turns up the following as the most major of the outstanding requests for enhancement: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69153 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85109 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63918 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68702 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71448 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28146 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44781 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54991 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63573 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63782

And here are the bugs I'm voting for: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4302 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17754 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51004 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54116 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59611 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63295 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76828 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97787 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99817

#148 thanks for those links...

by djk

Thursday June 6th, 2002 6:53 AM

I CC'd myself on several of them.

#17 Great!!!! but the image broke my portaloo :(

by lacostej

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:42 AM

Thanks everyone!!

Please let us see the download counts!

PS: the mozilla 1.0 image broke my portaloo display (http://www.linux.org.uk/cgi-bin/portaloo) PS2: the information in http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/profile.html#7.1 may have to be changed when bug for auto saving of last known good profile are landed. Perhaps a note should be added.

#19 Re: Great!!!! but the image broke my portaloo :(

by lacostej

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:43 AM

Link to portaloo http://www.linux.org.uk/cgi-bin/portaloo

#93 Re: Great!!!! but the image broke my portaloo :(

by DavidGerard

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:17 PM

"PS2: the information in (LINK) may have to be changed when bug for auto saving of last known good profile are landed. Perhaps a note should be added."

The faq will get an update in a week or so. An important addition for profiles: to use -profilemanager , remember to SHUT DOWN MOZILLA FIRST or you'll get a blank browser window instead.

#18 Mozillazine rules!

by mitchell

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:43 AM

Specifically, Chris Nelson and Jason Kersey, who have contributed years of hard work to the Mozilla community. Mozillazine was a a wildly creative idea when founded, and is a phenomenal resource. Thanks to *everyone+ who's been involved in making mozillazine rock. And a special thanks to Chris and Jason.

Mitchell mozilla.org

#20 YES!!!!

by darnell

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:44 AM

It's great. Congratulations to the Mozilla developers for staying the course. It took a long time, but IT WAS DONE RIGHT!!!!

#21 Congratulations

by timsc

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:54 AM

One small step for a lizard - one giant leap for browser-kind!

#22 Congrats!!!

by backtick

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:01 PM

Yay! 4 Years ago, I ran one of the first dozen mirrors of the netscape code, and I'm glad to see it finally all came together! Wonderful job, and long live the lizard!

#23 Good work!

by Ripat

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:05 PM

Good work!

Thanks to you all!

/Ripat

#24 Congratulations :D

by shin

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:19 PM

Congratulations ! Félicitations ! Omedetou gozaimasu !

Now let me mass-message my buddylist and announce the baby ! :D

#25 credits: "everyone" isn't really everyone

by bulbul

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:19 PM

Although i'm obviously elated over the 1.0 release, i'm a little disappointed with the credits. The Mozilla.org front page has a link to "everyone that made this possible". This points to a "Contributors" page, full of names of people who contributed code, wrote documentation, and did testing. However, this list cannot be complete. I myself have opened almost 150 bugs, some of which i spent considerable time on writing test cases and doing detective work, but i am not on the list. (I think that those 150 bugs entailed about 150-200 hours of work.) I also tested and commented on many bugs filed by other people. This should count as "testing". I'm sure there are many other people like me who were not recognized but should have been. I fully realize that i'm not a top-tier contributor, but there should be a note somewhere (such as on the Contributors page) like this:

We also extend our gratitude to the countless other individuals who contributed to Mozilla in lesser, but nonetheless significant, degrees, but who could not all be listed here.

Again, it is obvious that people who contributed patches and those who wrote code and documentation are entitled to the lion's share of the credit. But Mozilla would not be what it is without the many, many other people who contributed in smaller ways. We should also get a bit of credit for our countless collective hours of contribution, even if we're not mentioned by name. A small amount of recognition can generate an enormous amount of goodwill.

I will post this idea in a forum as soon as the forums are up again. Better yet, i guess i should file a bug.

#27 Re: credits: "everyone" isn't really everyone

by asa

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:23 PM

Or even better yet, you could get yourself added! from the bottom of the credits list: "To be added to the list, send mail to credits@mozilla.org (CCed to mozilla-patches) with your name and a sentence summarizing what you have contributed to Mozilla."

--Asa

#41 thanks, hadn't noticed

by bulbul

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:22 PM

Thanks, Asa. I hadn't noticed that. I have now submitted my name and claim to fame.

#70 Re: Re: credits: "everyone" isn't really everyone

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:58 PM

Well let's see what I've done so far:

- I've pushed for an updated screenshots page.

- I've commented on stuff.

- I've voted in the polls.

- I've told my friends about the Lizard.

So, do you think that's enough to get listed? :^) Just joking.

#91 Re: credits

by Down8

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 7:07 PM

Well, I doubt it's me, but my name is already on the credits list. Maybe I could write in and be added as 'Brian Z Jones'.

-bZj

#214 four months later...

by bulbul

Friday September 27th, 2002 5:07 PM

I fired that e-mail off to credits@mozilla.org on June 5. It's now September 27 and my name still isn't in. I just wonder how many other deserving people are still being denied any recognition.

#98 What's new in 1.0 vs RC3?

by ecarlson

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:59 PM

Okay, where's the "What's New" list since RC3?

I had no problem downloading 1.0 just now, and I am about uninstall RC3 and install 1.0 (Win2k). I'd like to know what has changed, and it's not in the release notes.

- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

#101 Sorry, wrong thread, I'll repost.

by ecarlson

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 9:05 PM

OOPS.

- Eric, InvisibleRobot.com http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

#105 Re: What's new in 1.0 vs RC3?

by asa

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 10:14 PM

only a few fixes, a couple of build/config changes, a security fix, a crash fix and maybe one other. Very minimal changes.

#106 RE: Changes?

by ecarlson

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 10:53 PM

How do I locate those changes in Bugzilla?

#112 Re: RE: Changes?

by asa

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:29 AM

query bonsai.

--Asa

#26 Great!!!

by Benman

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:20 PM

Good job!

On a side note, the fetchbuilds is STILL not updated. Heh, it says the current milestone in M17. :-)

#71 Re: Great!!!

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:00 PM

Same w/ the Screenshots page. Still says stuff for 0.9.4. Oh well, the skin is still pretty much the same.

#28 Rockin' Speed

by zmcgrew

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:26 PM

This is awsome! I used to only use Mozilla on UNIX, but it's faster than IE... Looks like I found my new 'doze browser!

Great job guys, keep up the good work. BTW, how did you manage the drastic speed improvement, 1.0RC3 was slow on my 'doze box, but 1.0 is a speed demon.

#29 Congratulations...

by davidbalch

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:41 PM

...to all who helped make moz the excellent browser it is :-D

#30 1.0

by pimlott

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:52 PM

Well, the browser is great, but the huge text is kinda ironic. Sad that on the most modern, standards-compliant browser, graphics are still required for something as simple as a large headline. Not to mention, the kerning on "1.0" is awful. Or is that "1 .0"? :-)

#33 Re: 1.0

by jilles

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:57 PM

It's an image. You should see what it did to the mozillazine slashbox on slashdot :-). Takes up about half the width of the sceen.

Anyway, congrats to everyone involved. I've managed to pull down an installer and put it in my Kazaa Shared directory. Not that it will help many people because I have very limited upload speed. But if more people do this, we can reduce the load on the servers.

#67 Kazaa

by hosking

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:39 PM

Change its name to Internet Exlorer 7 Or Netscape 8 ;-) (oh make sure you get Kazaalite normal kazaa is spyware)

#94 Re: 1.0

by DavidGerard

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:19 PM

"graphics are still required for something as simple as a large headline."

And it's a GIF. GIFs are 333vil and the work of SATAN!!!!1!1!111!! \m/

#171 Gifs

by hosking

Thursday June 6th, 2002 11:53 AM

Whats wrong woth Gifs

#191 GIFs aren't an open standard

by GAThrawn

Friday June 7th, 2002 8:04 AM

See Burn All GIFs http://burnallgifs.org/ and scroll down the front page to "About burnallgifs.org" for a full explanation.

The short version is that the LZW compression algorithm used to compress GIF images is patented by Unisys. Unisys are currently enforcing their patent so that any software that allows you to _create_ a GIF image has to buy a patent from Unisys, whilst they are not currently enforcing their patent on software that displays GIFs (eg Mozilla) or on people who use GIFs (ie you and me) there is absolutely nothing to stop them doing so in the future.

The alternative is the technically superior (and more important open standard) PNG format, which we should all be using in web pages alongside of the pre-existing JPG format.

#192 GIFs aren't an open standard (correction)

by GAThrawn

Friday June 7th, 2002 8:06 AM

s/buy a patent from Unisys/buy a licence from Unisys/

#109 Re: 1.0

by wolfseyn

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:09 AM

I agree. That's the first thing I noticed. . . What's up with that? Didn't notice it's a gif... we ought to see a png there if not some elite Cascadable Stylin' Shirts formatted text.

Thanks Mozilla.

#31 Party time!!!

by RangeLife

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:53 PM

A big big THANKS to all u Mozilla guys, i'm so excited!

Now it's time to fix bug 100309: mozilla1.0 party!

#150 Tonight I'm gonna party

by Salsaman

Thursday June 6th, 2002 7:18 AM

...like it's bug 100309 !!!!!!!!! <p>:-P

#32 Party time!!!

by RangeLife

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:57 PM

A big big THANKS to all u Mozilla guys, i'm so excited!

Now it's time to fix bug 100309: mozilla1.0 party!

#34 Awesome!

by gashu

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:57 PM

MOZ RULES! ONE DOT OH ROCKS!!!

#35 What else can I say...

by sconest

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:59 PM

... than "thanks to everyone !!!"

#36 Wow

by hosking

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 12:59 PM

Its here Brilliant

#38 I cant downoad it

by hosking

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:04 PM

Not Found The requested URL /pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.0/mozilla-win32-1.0-installer.exe was not found on this server.

#40 Try this

by RangeLife

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:14 PM

ftp://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.0/

#37 Thank you

by zipo13

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:01 PM

Thank you for the alternative. :-)

#39 Can someone post a working mirror!!! (please)

by bootleg

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:10 PM

I'm no geek, only a "homeuser" from Austria (Europe *g*) so I don't understand how much you had to do, that Mozilla works, but

>>> RESPECT <<<

#42 Here you go...

by jonik

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:28 PM

ftp://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.0/

And a big THANKS to the Mozilla development community!

#43 Respect The Lizard

by TonyG

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:52 PM

Big respect to Mozilla.Org and all who have slogged it out with this, the shining beacon in the night. The best things in life are ALWAYS worth waiting for and this is proof positive.

Mitchell expressed her thanks for Chris and Jason for keeping us alive during the darker moments via M'Zine. Don't forget Asa and the millions of lines of info we come to expect on the build bar.

Ireland are still in the World Cup - Mozilla is released. Man I'm gonna cry :)

Say it again - long live the lizard!

#44 Before I file with Bugzilla

by GreyPoopon

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 1:58 PM

Is anybody else noticing a serious slowdown when sending request? I'm seeing "Sending request to ... " for long periods of time, and it's particularly horrible on sites that have images from different paths. I'm thinking the problem may only be happening through proxy, but I'll have to wait until I get home to see how direct connections work. I've tried removing my prefs.js file, and there's no change in the condition. Anybody else notice this problem? I did not have any trouble with RC3.

#56 Re: Before I file with Bugzilla

by GreyPoopon

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:19 PM

Never mind. I forgot to use the M$-recommended solution for software problems. After rebooting, it appears to be working just fine.

#46 Can anyone tell me the correct Build ID for 1.o

by andier

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:06 PM

Hi,

I have downloaded what seems to be Version 1.0 of Mozilla. It is showing a Build ID of 2002053012. Is this correct?

The about page says 1.0.

Thanks. Andrew Rindel.

P.S. Thanks for a great browser!

#48 Re:Can anyone tell me the correct Build ID for 1.0

by saege

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:21 PM

Yep, that's right.

#140 Re: Can anyone tell me the correct Build ID for 1.

by Kallisti

Thursday June 6th, 2002 6:02 AM

Hi,

I downloaded the Linuz binary in the 1.0 directory but my Build ID says 2002052918. Is this also correct. That is more than a week ago..

/Daggi

#47 Nightlies?

by reid

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:08 PM

I'm happy that there's an official 1.0 out, but I like to live on the cutting edge! I see that the mozilla ftp site no longer has nightlies; is that a temporary thing? Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere.

#52 Nightlies?

by reid

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:00 PM

Apparently it WAS a temporary thing, because the nightly directory is back on the ftp server. Thanks anyway!

#54 Gone again.

by JBassford

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:06 PM

If it was, it's been taken back off again. The only directory on the server (now) is "Mozilla1.0". Which is slightly annoying, although perhaps understandable. I only hope it gets put back again by tomorrow. I prefer the trunk builds...

#69 And it's back!

by JBassford

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:52 PM

n/t

#125 ftp.mozilla.org server (Re: And it's back!)

by hurtta

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:19 AM

Apparently ftp.mozilla.org does no longer point to mozilla.org's primary server. Instead you got random server from pool.

[hurtta@pontus hurtta]$ nslookup ftp.mozilla.org Server: ns.tele.fi Address: 193.210.18.18 Non-authoritative answer: Name: ftp-mozilla.netscape.com Addresses: 207.200.85.39, 207.200.85.37, 207.200.85.38 Aliases: ftp.mozilla.org [hurtta@pontus hurtta]$

( created account for post that message :-) )

#49 Great Mozilla in the sky...

by saege

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:25 PM

we thank thee for finally fulfilling thy promise of old.

-- And better yet: the latest versions from the 1.0.0 branch rock even more.

#50 1.0

by Dobbins

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:30 PM

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To ALL the people that mafe this possible

#51 1.0

by Dobbins

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 2:51 PM

To ALL the people that mafe this possible

#53 Where'd SVG go?

by kaoruAngel

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:04 PM

No SVG build? No more nightly builds hosted on ftp.mozilla.org? What's an SVG fiend to do?

C'mon, Mozilla. What's up?

#55 just thank you

by niner

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:14 PM

Thank's to everyone that had anything to do with building this great peace of software :)

And thanks for keeping the course in spite of all the critics and flames, I think it went right.

#57 ¡Gracias! Danke! Merci! Grazie! Thanks!...

by turi

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:26 PM

...Bedankt! Härzleche Dank!...

It's great to see a community build such a good piece of software.

Let's party!

#65 Re: ¡Gracias! Danke! Merci! Grazie! Thanks!...

by Hanno

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:27 PM

>Härzleche Dank!...

eehhh, if this is intended to be german, it is totally wrong written ;-)

#75 And more ways to thank you

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:23 PM

Ca'm o+n - Vietnamese (VISCII)

Grazias - Arogonese

Shukran - Arabic

Tänan - Estonian

Arigato - Japanese

Paldies - Latvian

Auw'e - Polynesian

Thenk ye - Scots

Tack - Swedish

Takumat - Thai

What? Well, I wanted to thank the entire Mozilla community as much as I could.

#108 Re: Re: ¡Gracias! Danke! Merci! Grazie! Thanks!...

by turi

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:53 PM

That's Swiss German. German is already in the title.

#66 what about the download manager?

by Hanno

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:32 PM

at this stage it makes not much sense. does anyone know when it will be ready with all the features mentioned in the newsgroups?

#58 I have no words....

by rtvkuijk

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:29 PM

Thanx everyone

#59 yay!

by arielb

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 3:56 PM

we finally did it! I remember when mozilla source first came out. I remember signing the petition for mozilla to use gecko. I remember baby mozilla (too bad they don't sell it anymore). Now mozilla 1.0 is finally out. Now is when the fun really starts

#76 Re: yay!

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:27 PM

What was Baby Mozilla?

#86 baby moz

by arielb

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 6:04 PM

baby mozilla was a cute stuffed animal that Netscape used to sell. i think i had a picture but not sure where it is

#60 So. Damned. Slow.

by xtc

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:03 PM

It would be my browser of choice if it weren't so damned slow...

:-(

#84 Re: So. Damned. Slow.

by phitaly

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:55 PM

Maybe it wouldnt be very slow at all if you upgraded your POS hardware. Mine screams faster than IE.

#118 Re: Re: So. Damned. Slow.

by jonik

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:26 AM

Yeah! My work computer is pretty old, 500MHz and 256 megs of ram, running Windwows 2000. Still Mozilla is _very_ fast, I have no complaints at all. It seems to work a bit faster on Windows than on Linux

#126 Re: Re: Re: So. Damned. Slow.

by jsebrech

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:24 AM

It probably opens windows faster on Windows, thanks to our good friend quicklaunch, which has no equivalent (other than leaving a window in hidden state, which I often do) on linux.

I wonder if they added the reduce footprint with quicklaunch fix in time for 1.0. That makes sure mozilla shrinks down to teenie-weenie sizes when you close all windows instead of taking up tens of megabytes even when only the quicklaunch tray icon is visible.

Otherwise, it'll be in 1.0.1 anyway.

#195 RC3

by thegoldenear

Friday June 7th, 2002 9:54 AM

fascist. imperialist. earth abuser.

have you contemplated how polluted some parts of the world are because of the attitude of people like you?

#61 Totally cool!

by SomeGuy

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:05 PM

Great job! Mozilla is a super browser!

I want a Mozilla bumper sticker!

#63 Re: Totally cool!

by KDPJE

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:18 PM

Or a t-shirt, or a mug or all of the above :-)

Need to hang out the flag :-)

#77 Re: Re: Totally cool!

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:28 PM

I think there's still those issues w/ the dinosaur logo blocking such merchandise. There was a post about it in the forums recently; you can look for the bug number.

- mxn

#62 Hartelijk dank en gefeliciteerd !

by KDPJE

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:17 PM

Thanks a lot to all the folks out there who have contributed in their own way to making Mozilla what it is today. A great day indeed and worth the wait.

Thanks especially to the folks at Mozilla.org and here at Mozillazine !

A happy chappy here in Amersfoort, Holland. Just got on-line at midnight and not sure I can sleep now :-)

Hartelijk dank & gefeliciteerd !!

#68 Debug and QA menus

by beastie

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 4:43 PM

Are these still in the 1.0 release?

#72 Re: Debug and QA menus

by AlexBishop

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:06 PM

"Are these still in the 1.0 release?"

No, because mozilla.org don't want a million curious Slashdot users trampling all over Bugzilla.

Alex

#78 Re: Debug and QA menus

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:29 PM

Nope. I don't think they were in RC3 either.

- mxn

#80 No. (n/t)

by rgelb

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:34 PM

Nope

#95 Re:

by PsychoCS

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:29 PM

They are of course still in the trunk builds.

#96 Re:

by beastie

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 8:31 PM

Yep, that's why I asked. All I use are nightlies.

#73 w00t!

by michaelg

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:11 PM

Thanks to everyone who coded, debugged, tested, managed, supported and evanged Mozilla over the years. It's a fast, stable, feature-packed, standards-supporting bundle of kick-arse browser!

Thanks guys, and here's to many more fine releases!

Mike.

#74 Buggy 1.0

by leet

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:21 PM

Mail & News only opens once per Windows session. Once it's closed, it won't open again. It'll only open after a reboot. For such an important function, this is unacceptable.

#88 Re: Buggy 1.0

by arnoudb

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 6:30 PM

You mean it only opens once per session FOR YOU... Noone else seems to have that problem! So it must be something in your config. Have you tried a completely clean install and a fresh profile? If it still won't work after that, then go file a bug...

#92 I thought this was crap, but...

by elzahir

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 7:46 PM

I tried it and in fact came up with the same behaviour. Not good :(

*goes off to visit bugzilla*

#89 Re: Buggy 1.0

by lgladen

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 6:42 PM

Are you using a non- standard theme? Try switching to modern or classic, and see if the problem still occurs. If it does, see if the author has updated their theme.

#79 Media Coverage

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:33 PM

Well, ZDNet has an article about it already: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-932847.html

- mxn

#82 Re: Media Coverage

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:41 PM

I think C|Net's article is the same thing, but you can read it too at http://news.com.com/2100-1023-932814.html?tag=fd_lede

InternetNews.com has another article about Moz1.0: http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article.php/1299381

Yet another article from InfoWorld.com is at http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/06/05/020605hnmozilla.xml

More Mozilla news links as they become available. :^)

- mxn

#83 Re: Media Coverage

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:48 PM

I think C|Net's article is the same thing, but you can read it too at http://news.com.com/2100-1023-932814.html?tag=fd_lede

InternetNews.com has another article about Moz1.0: http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article.php/1299381

Yet another article from InfoWorld.com is at http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/06/05/020605hnmozilla.xml

More Mozilla news links as they become available. :^)

- mxn

#87 Re: Media Coverage

by MXN

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 6:25 PM

For more Mozilla praise, see MozillaNews' article on Mozilla 1.0's release: http://www.mozillanews.org/index.php3?article=fdf8cad7a237b59871e621945daf46f5

- MXN

#132 Re: Media Coverage

by rajbhaskar

Thursday June 6th, 2002 4:07 AM

There's an article at the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1949000/1949143.stm

#81 Speed

by rgelb

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 5:36 PM

Is it me or the speed has improved a little bit in 1.0 versus RC releases? The menus are no longer sluggish. Prefs window comes up a bit faster.

Maybe it was compiled without the debug stuff?

#85 Congrats

by myklgrant

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 6:03 PM

First of all: thank-you for a great piece of software. Second: trying out the builds and bug-hunting has been fun and rewarding. Last: I think it will be some time before we all realize how important the Mozilla project is. I have a feeling that some time in the future when computing looks alot different than it does today (read: open) we will look back on Mozilla's four-year birth and realize alot started there. Congratulations all and thank-you again

#90 GREAT GREAT GREAT XD Congrats :-D

by tssr

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 7:00 PM

FINALLY!!!!! YEAHH!!! Been testing Mozilla for *quite a while* and yes!! It's a great piece of software! Thank you to all who tested, added features, and most of all, programmed this browser! IE: Watch out! :D

#99 Finally...

by keleh

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 9:00 PM

I had my doubts, but Mozilla 1.0 is definitely better than any version of IE.

#100 What's changed since RC3?

by ecarlson

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 9:04 PM

Okay, where's the "What's New" list since RC3?

I had no problem downloading 1.0 just now, and I am about uninstall RC3 and install 1.0 (Win2k). I'd like to know what has changed, and it's not in the release notes.

- Eric, InvisibleRobot.com http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

[PS: sorry for posting this message in the wrong thread earlier.]

#102 Re: What's changed since RC3?

by WillyWonka

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 9:52 PM

I believe nothing is different between RC3 and the final. That is the point. They waited, nothing major popped up, so they released it.

#129 Re: What's changed since RC3?

by jsebrech

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:36 AM

They fixed a security bug, and some other minor things. But since these are only fixes to functionality already in there it's not really worth it explicitly listing them.

It's still worth upgrading because of the security bug.

#104 streaming video a pita with Mozilla

by ndebord

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 10:02 PM

Unlike IE, streaming video is a painful, manual and often unsuccessful exercise with Mozilla v1.0. RealPlayer and Media Player sometimes work and sometimes don't in different Microsoft Operating Systems. Only QuickTime 5.01 works flawlessly and just try and find a major news site where that is the player of choice (outside of Bloomberg news).

FWIW.

Nick

#130 Re: streaming video a pita with Mozilla

by jsebrech

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:41 AM

Really? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day long.

I use mozilla on windows, and it opens quicktime, realplayer and windows media player in mozilla every time without a problem, thanks to the magic of codeweavers' crossover plugin.

To think that realplayer and windows media player actually work better in linux than in windows ... Man oh man ...

Seriously though, it's not the only way in which the windows platform is stubborn. For example, making mozilla mail the default sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. Not because mozilla does something wrong, but because windows does something wrong. Sometimse you have to go change some setting somewhere in the control panel to assign your mailto links to mozilla mail. Classic microsoft tactics, I suppose.

#107 Congrats in a MAJOR way!

by dscribner

Wednesday June 5th, 2002 11:19 PM

Congratulations and MANY pats on the back to ALL who contributed to this great success! To all the developers, doc writers, debuggers and testers, web designers, supporters, news sites and users... THANK YOU!!! You've got my standing ovation!

#110 As usual, no Solaris binaries :(

by johann_p

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:13 AM

No Solaris 2.6 binaries - this means no way to install Mozilla in our company.

#111 but ...

by schauvea

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:23 AM

you can compile it yourself. You can the sources for free and that's even LEGAL!!!

Incredible isn't it? There should be more projets like that. We could call them 'free source' or 'open source'. I am going to fill a patent for my brillant idea....

#122 No way ...

by johann_p

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:47 AM

Its hard enough to get our admins to even *consider* upgrading from NS4.x - having to compile it themselves reduces to chance of this happening to close to 0%. BTW - why is mozilla org distributing binaries at all then? There are Linux, Win32, and even BSD and OS2 binaries - but no Solaris. Note that Solaris is one of the OS that simply *needs* a browser like Mozilla most. If opera comes out with a non beta version for Solaris I am sure we will get Opera if Mozilla binearies wont be available sooner. Leaving Solaris out from the list of ready made binaries is just plain stupid. Netscape should be able to invest the little money it takes to either do this themselves or pay someboedy to do it ...

#149 Yawn.

by johnlar

Thursday June 6th, 2002 7:14 AM

Mozilla generally releases extra platforms a few days after a milestone. Just keep your eyes open for it. Anyways you should be able to compile it on one computer then copy it to the others. Which is something you should be able to do yourself. Or you can wait. Sun itself releases a Solaris branded version of mozilla. See if you can find it.

#153 wake up

by johann_p

Thursday June 6th, 2002 7:54 AM

No. There was never a solaris 2.6 build for any milestone although there is one for the nightlies (so it should be possible, technically). Anyway, as long mozilla/netscape have the "yawn" attitude towards potential solaris users they should not wonder if they get a bad reputation and people turn to other browsers. My argument is simply that it would be little effort to make a lot of people happy while currently it is a big effort for many people most of which will be unhappy about it. Ah well ...

#168 Solaris binaries

by bzbarsky

Thursday June 6th, 2002 11:21 AM

Solaris binaries are contributed by developers or users who have Solaris machines (at Sun or elsewhere). That means that to have a 2.6 binary someone with a 2.6 machine needs to build it. Since you seem to have such a machine, your doing it would be incredibly helpful....

#173 I know

by johann_p

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:02 PM

And it would be the first thing I would do if it was *my* machine. Unfortunately it is my emplyoer's machine and both disk space and CPU are scarce ressources (te machine I have my account on has less than 1G free space)

#183 Re: I know

by asa

Thursday June 6th, 2002 7:30 PM

So find someone that does have the resources and stop pointing a finger at mozilla.org like they have somehow maligned you. We're all short on resources. mozilla.org has to rely on what individuals contributors and corporate contributors donate to the project. If you don't have anything to contribute and you need something then find someone that does have those resources and make some deal with them (you might get lucky and find someone to do it for free) but this consistent finger-pointing and claiming of bad attitude or discrimination gets you no where. I'll say it very plainly now. mozilla.org does not have a machine to build the binary that you so desperately want. Unless you or someone else provides the machine or the resulting build to mozilla.org there won't be any binaries for you at ftp.mozilla.org. It's that simple. There are FreeBSD, DEC Alpha, HPUX, OpenVMS, OS/2, AIX, Spark BSDi, Linux PPC, etc. binaries available at ftp.mozilla.org because _mozilla_ _contributors_ cared enought to contribute equipment or binaries for those platforms. Be like them or convince someone else to be like them.

--Asa

#213 still waiting

by cthulhu11

Thursday June 13th, 2002 3:31 AM

SunOS5/SPARC is an "extra" platform?? Does this mean that mozilla is (with all due respect) yet another linux-centric solipsism? From what I can tell, compilation for those not involved in the project (read: me and the others in this thread) is hardly a straightforward matter. Is the source tarball complete? It appears to me to require eg. GTK, which itself isn't available prebuilt. Attempting to build it is a gargantuan task, given all of the other Linux-centric libraries that it turns out to require.

I don't see a release date for 1.0 anywhere, but it's been a week since this thread started.

#166 but ...

by schauvea

Thursday June 6th, 2002 10:54 AM

you can compile it yourself. You can the sources for free and that's even LEGAL!!!

Incredible isn't it? There should be more projets like that. We could call them 'free source' or 'open source'. I am going to fill a patent for my brillant idea....

#113 Re: Mozilla 1.0

by zontar

Thursday June 6th, 2002 12:35 AM

'S wonderful...!

#114 Thanks!

by adsmith

Thursday June 6th, 2002 1:23 AM

Thanks to all concerned from a long-time Mozilla fan.

Andrew

#115 Software installation working?

by pepejeria

Thursday June 6th, 2002 1:32 AM

Does the "Advanced/Software installation" work in Mozilla 1.0? If yes, will it be a la IE, that you only download some files to install?

#116 Netscape 7 Q

by pepejeria

Thursday June 6th, 2002 1:49 AM

Will the final version of Netscape 7 be based on Mozilla 1.0 or Mozilla 1.0.1?

#120 Re: Netscape 7.0

by DJGM2002

Thursday June 6th, 2002 2:35 AM

I reckon it's most likely NS7 final will be built upon Mozilla 1.0, although I wouldn't be surprised if NS put out one more preview release first though.

#139 Re: What's the cursor for?

by bandido

Thursday June 6th, 2002 5:34 AM

Historically, Netscape has always had more than 2 PRs.

#123 Nes.com

by hosking

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:07 AM

Your on the front Page Maybe a few less tech savy peope will take notice now?

#124 Great!

by wvw

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:17 AM

Congrats from the lowlands!

#128 Congratulation and thanks!

by pointwood

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:30 AM

I would just like to thank everyone involved in creating Mozilla - thanks for creating such a great browser and platform!

#131 What's the cursor for?

by thomanski

Thursday June 6th, 2002 3:57 AM

Thanks for an awesome browser!

But what is the cursor for that appears when I click on non-linking text in a page. Makes me feel like I'm in Composer (while I'm not!). Is this a bug or a feature?

#138 Re: What's the cursor for?

by bandido

Thursday June 6th, 2002 5:30 AM

Did you have a previous Mozilla/Netscape6 installation? I used to have the same problem. You must unistall all previous versions, and delete all profiles ... in other words, you need to have a clean installation.

#159 Re: What's the cursor for?

by Rayban

Thursday June 6th, 2002 8:31 AM

Hit F7- this is Caret browsing mode.

#163 Caret browsing is so cool. Thanks.

by ecarlson

Thursday June 6th, 2002 10:41 AM

What other special features am I missing out on? Is there an FAQ on cool and/or hidden features?

- Eric, InvisibleRobot.com http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

#197 Re: Caret browsing is so cool. Thanks.

by WillyWonka

Friday June 7th, 2002 11:43 AM

http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/

#206 Been there. (NT)

by ecarlson

Sunday June 9th, 2002 3:58 PM

Been there.

#209 Re: Caret browsing is so cool. Thanks.

by MXN

Sunday June 9th, 2002 5:16 PM

Try Hidden Mozilla Prefs: http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki/

- MXN http://mxn.netfirms.com/

#133 Moz 1.0 slower than NN6.2? (link inside)

by ezh

Thursday June 6th, 2002 4:21 AM

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227884-8-20005816-6.html?tag=st.sw.3227884-8-20005816-2.subdir.3227884-8-20005816-6

#134 AIX version?

by raphi72

Thursday June 6th, 2002 4:37 AM

Has anyone compiled an AIX version yet?

#135 what about the download manager?

by Hanno

Thursday June 6th, 2002 4:42 AM

at this stage it makes not much sense. does anyone know when it will be ready with all the features mentioned in the newsgroups?

#136 Finally here!!! Congratulations!!! And now....

by alemine

Thursday June 6th, 2002 5:00 AM

... I hope Mozilla will be remembered as the fastest spreading sw in the history!!! I'll tell to all my friends to swith to Mozilla, and also if I find a site not standard (like http://www.cellman.it/) I'll make a mail bombing like in order to make it Mozilla (= standard) compatible!!! Ok sorry for my poor, english, but I'm really excited :-))))))

#198 Re: Finally here!!! Congratulations!!! And now....

by jsebrech

Friday June 7th, 2002 11:54 AM

I doubt mailbombing a site maintainer is likely to move them to change their site to display correctly for a tiny fraction of the internet population.

#199 Re: Finally here!!! Congratulations!!! And now....

by jsebrech

Friday June 7th, 2002 11:59 AM

I'm pretty sure one of the windows worms will be remembered as the fastest spreading software in history ;)

#137 Congratulations

by bjornte

Thursday June 6th, 2002 5:29 AM

Concratulations, people. This is great! I've been reading this Zine for several years now, it's so good to see 1.0 finally here! May the Lizard have a Long, Prosperous Life! Bjørn, Oslo, Norway

#141 NTLM Authentication?

by fatal_2

Thursday June 6th, 2002 6:28 AM

What happened to NTLM Authentication? With earlier builds of mozilla, I used to be presented with a dialog box where i put my DOMAIN\\Username and password to get through our proxy (MS proxy server).

Now when I try, I am presented with a 407 Proxy Authentication Required screen.

#142 Damn fast on my machine!! But, the plugins...

by kickumus

Thursday June 6th, 2002 6:37 AM

Mozilla 1.0 really works great on my machine. Earlier releases seemed slower, but this one really seems a lot faster than IE. But, can anyone tell me... I installed it on my laptop (Win2000) using the ZIP file and I didn't need any plugins at all, I was even able to browse Disney.com nicely. But, when I installed it on my desktop (WinXP Pro) using the exe file, the plugins seemed to be non-existant. I am missing something here?