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Netscape's Smart Download Released

Wednesday November 18th, 1998

Joel Caris writes in to say, "Netscape SmartDownload has been released. This is the Netscape plugin that lets you pause and resume downloads."

Editor's Note: I downloaded it, and tried installing it with the browser (4.5) open and with the browser closed. I wasn't able to get SmartDownload to do anything... I went to Netcenter, tried downloading files from different areas, and got the same old download process dialog box. If anyone manages to get this to work, tell us what you did!


#1 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Jim

Thursday November 19th, 1998 9:32 AM

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I downloaded and installed Smart Download with the 4.5 still open, and I haven't had a problem using it. Maybe you can try a Smart Update.

#2 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Joe

Thursday November 19th, 1998 11:36 AM

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It works for me as well, though not on all .exe downloads for some reason (perhaps only from netcenter -- it didn't work at tucows)?

Do we really need more pop up windows forced on us while we download? More advertising? More screen real estate lost? I am dumping this thing, and fast...

#3 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Peter Kovacs

Thursday November 19th, 1998 12:37 PM

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From what I can tell, the Linux version of nav 4.5 has that capability. (without any update) Which is pretty darn cool if you ask me!

#4 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Peter Kovacs

Thursday November 19th, 1998 12:37 PM

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From what I can tell, the Linux version of nav 4.5 has that capability. (without any update) Which is pretty darn cool if you ask me!

#5 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by george <beg1@netscape.net>

Thursday November 19th, 1998 3:29 PM

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Ok, i think you have to download some thing that's over 1 meg. Also it opens up this new window.

It kinda looks ugly. They should have keep the download window the same except add the pause button and maybe put the ad at the top, but instead they changed it.

Also does it only work with netcenter?

#6 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by The Url <adhicks@netscape.net>

Thursday November 19th, 1998 4:15 PM

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Hi all. I have to second george's comment on Smart Download's appearance - It could use a little work. Its dialog box should be smaller perhaps, along with Netscape promotional banner not so "in your face" and taking up so much desktop space. . .

I just used Smart Download on the official Star Wars site, so i know it's working beyond Netcenter but there's other sites it will not.

#7 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Brian <brian@uniqsys.com>

Thursday November 19th, 1998 4:33 PM

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I'm just guessing, but I imagine the FTP server has to support REGET. I don't know jack about HTTP, but I imagine it has some sort of equivalent?

#8 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Keith Rarick <krarick@uclink4.berkeley.edu>

Thursday November 19th, 1998 4:59 PM

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Navigator has been able to automatically reget ftp transfers for a long time (since 1.1?). I don't know of any HTTP equivalent functionality, but if there is some, then I wouldn't be surprised if that were supported as well.

#9 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Brian Tiemann <btman@ugcs.caltech.edu>

Thursday November 19th, 1998 5:08 PM

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HTTP 1.1 has a Range: field which allows you to specify a portion of a file to download; that's HTTP's version of REGET.

Which reminds me... I was under the impression, when both 4.0 browsers were in beta, that both would fully support HTTP/1.1. It turned out that MSIE (almost) does, and Netscape didn't. Then I expected 4.5 to have it-- it doesn't. So... what's the holdup on HTTP/1.1?

#10 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by arielb

Thursday November 19th, 1998 9:26 PM

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This is very un-mozilla like. Where's the source code and info on mozilla.org? Will it be cross platform and easily portable? And the ads...mozilla won't have ads. Netscape, I love ya for mozilla with ngt and all but Netscape 4.x was a big flop. Number 5 is the end of all their mistakes

#11 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Brian <brian@uniqsys.com>

Friday November 20th, 1998 6:55 AM

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I'm just guessing, but I imagine the FTP server has to support REGET. I don't know jack about HTTP, but I imagine it has some sort of equivalent?

#12 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by george <beg1@netscape.net>

Friday November 20th, 1998 10:14 AM

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This is completely gay! It opens way to many windows!

Also there needs to be a button "finish later" So i can click it and go play quake then when i start to download it again it just picks up where i left off!

Also before the download starts i can't chose where i want to download it?

This program needs more work! Great idea, but needs work.

Also i hope in N5.0 this will be integrated into Communicator and there will be no ads in Netscape5.0, too.

#13 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by scott miga <suprax@themes.org>

Friday November 20th, 1998 10:20 AM

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did someone say that the linux version of 4.5 already has this option. i cant seem to find it in my version. will it say its smart download or is it just built in?

-- <suprax@themes.org>

#14 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by scott miga <suprax@themes.org>

Friday November 20th, 1998 10:40 AM

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did someone say that the linux version of 4.5 already has this option. i cant seem to find it in my version. will it say its smart download or is it just built in?

-- <suprax@themes.org>

#15 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Matthew Miller <mattdm@mattdm.org>

Friday November 20th, 1998 1:27 PM

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Very annoying -- especially since I'd already done every single one of the things offered to me in the unclosable (I hate that -- it's MY computer) promotional window.

#16 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Garrett <garrett@themes.org>

Saturday November 21st, 1998 8:39 PM

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Yes, Linux already has this. In fact, the Linux version really kicks as it has WAY more features (such as recursive gets, etc) to boot.

The Linux version is called "wget". *grin*

#17 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Shukri Shiraz <shukris@netscape.net>

Sunday November 22nd, 1998 12:38 PM

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At first,I had a problem because it wasn't working.Then I restarted my computer and installed it again and then it worked fine on all my browsers(I'm currently using Mozilla 5.0,really).You should check About*Plug-ins to make sure that the program is registered...

#18 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by Chris Henson <plasmatoid@earthlink.net>

Sunday November 22nd, 1998 4:35 PM

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Since it seems nobody bothered to look at their about:plugins page =) ... SmartDownload is only registered to handle items with the mime type application/idp & application/x-idp, both with the suffix of .idp. This is something called the "Internet Download Profile", which, in my best guess, is a list of mirror URL's, etc for the files. End result? Only sites that support Netscape SmartDownload are going to have IDP files, and thus... I'll stick to GetRight. =)

#19 Re:Netscape's Smart Download Released

by A.Cousinie <albanc@netscape.net>

Tuesday December 1st, 1998 2:09 AM

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"ASIASR" : As soon Installed, As Soon Removed.

I hate advertisements, and I hate even more people who want to constraint me to see them (this ad window is unclosable unless the download is over). This smartdownload is like junk mail in my download window !

Since two years now, people from marketing of everywhere have been poluting the net. They really need to be taught the meaning of the word "respect". The respect of a fabulous media that was given to us, and the respect of the people who use it. It seems some people at Netscape have been loosing their respect.