MozillaZine

Drivers Update

Friday March 29th, 2002

The mozilla.org Status Reports was updated, and included some information on what drivers@mozilla.org are up to, and what's coming up:

"drivers@mozilla.org approved checkins for over 240 bugs this last week. We've taken a few more big-ticket items and have a couple to go. drivers will be ramping down this next week and actively soliciting fixes that we need to branch and have a Release Candidate 1 sometime (hopefully) late next week. We need to get RC1 out there quickly and get feedback on all the changes we've taken since 0.9.9 and at the same time we need the release to stand up so that users will put enough hours on it to give meaningful feedback. Please help us to get the builds into good shape over this next week with particular attention to recent regressions and topcrash+ bugs."


#69 Re: He has a point, folks

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Tuesday April 2nd, 2002 8:27 PM

You are replying to this message

"They (I believe I hear Asa most commonly) have adamantly, time-and-time-again told us that mozilla was just to develop for Netscape (and to a lesser extent, the world)..."

I've neaver said that Mozilla was just to develop Netscape. Please don't put words in my mouth. I've said that mozilla.org provides binaries for testing and development purposes. There is nothing inconsistent there. We've said that from the first day we started making binaries available. Testing helps us make the code better so that Beonex, Netscape, OEOne, IBM, Sun, HP, etc. can more easily build and distribute great products to end users.

"If it really is not for end-users, then this should be a zero fan-fare release (and indeed, perhaps even without a binary)."

I've proposeded the binary only release in the past, but changed my mind. There is far too much value in the testing feedback that we get from every Milestone to give that up, especially as we start the long-lived stable development 1.0 branch, off of which many, many products will be based. The 1.0 branch beyond the 1.0 Milestone must continue to improve and 1.0 feedback (bug reports and talkback crash data) will help that in a big way.

There is also little sense in not capitalizing on the oportunity to announce broadly the stabilization of certain APIs, the overall stability of the codebase and the usefulness of the application and application platform to hopefully induce a broad range of companies and organizations to take another look at this codebase. Fan-fare is something we need. We've got a great technology and when people discover this we should see many more distributions, derivatives and other Mozilla-based applications springing up.

I've never said that there weren't people using it as an end user product. I use it as my exclusive browser and mail client. I've said that we don't intend it as an end-user product and will not support it as such. I also use other "in development" products like nightly snapshots of the Ximian desktop, the Nautilus file browser and beta releases from several non-OSS vendors. They all have "end user" problems and I report some of those problems so that future versions will get better. I'm not a traditional enduser, that isn't traditional end use.

--Asa