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Tree Closes Tonight for Mozilla 0.9.9

Tuesday February 19th, 2002

mozilla.org will begin the process to release Mozilla 0.9.9 tonight at 11:59 pm pacific by closing the tree to free checkins. Mozilla 0.9.9 is the last major milestone prior to 1.0, and includes numerous bugfixes in composer, history, and other areas. Along with this, likely new features that will be in the milestone include a new full screen window mode, set image as wallpaper, and composer publishing.

Following the tree close tonight, expect up to a week of tree closure for stability and regression fixes, then a branch to be cut some time next week. As soon as the branch is cut, the trunk will reopen for Mozilla 1.0 checkins. mozilla.org is shooting for a March 1st release date, but due to this being the last milestone before 1.0, and because there is a large amount of code that will be landed tonight prior to tree close, delays may occur.


#158 about crashes

by dipa

Wednesday February 27th, 2002 1:25 AM

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Most of us, as others already said, download nightlies for everyday usage, the lifetime of a nightly in our boxes isn't more than one or two days. We accept the "risk" involved (no real risk because it's always a good practice to keep backup of critical data). The most unstable period (from what I derive from my personal experience and the new bugs filed everyday) is in the first days after branching a milestone and in special cases where a large part of the code is being rewritten. I for one had 2 browser crashes during this month, using Mozilla at home and work. I filed two bugs, one is assigned and the other one was a duplicate (fixed now). I also had crashes with IE this month (which, btw, I use very rarerly, that is its MTBF is extremely low for me:)).

Assertions like "Mozilla crashes every 3.5 hours" or "crash quite frequently" are based either on misinterpretation of statistics or a bad individual user experience. The fact that some nightlies are essentially unusable because of a big crasher doesn't prove the above statements. These statements also don't include the fact that on some platforms Mozilla might be more stable than in others. Finally, quoting from the home page of <http://www.mozilla.org>, about the nightlies: "Created most weekdays from the previous day's work, these will probably work, but maybe not".

As a user, indeed I am worried about the recent extended period of regressions (reached into the freeze stage). I made my own conclusions but I don't play the manager nor I continuously cry out into the public about problems I refuse to offer some useful hint or data. Oops... this was intended for someone else in the thread.