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Tree Closes Tonight for Mozilla 0.9.9

Tuesday February 19th, 2002

mozilla.org will begin the process to release Mozilla 0.9.9 tonight at 11:59 pm pacific by closing the tree to free checkins. Mozilla 0.9.9 is the last major milestone prior to 1.0, and includes numerous bugfixes in composer, history, and other areas. Along with this, likely new features that will be in the milestone include a new full screen window mode, set image as wallpaper, and composer publishing.

Following the tree close tonight, expect up to a week of tree closure for stability and regression fixes, then a branch to be cut some time next week. As soon as the branch is cut, the trunk will reopen for Mozilla 1.0 checkins. mozilla.org is shooting for a March 1st release date, but due to this being the last milestone before 1.0, and because there is a large amount of code that will be landed tonight prior to tree close, delays may occur.


#120 Re: Re: doh

by strauss

Monday February 25th, 2002 10:17 AM

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To be fair, it's not possible to search for messages here, and hasn't been for quite a while. I'm not sure why, since old messages are still archived. There was a search feature here long ago.

I don't think I've ever said "Mozilla is crap" or "Mozilla sucks." What I have said and will continue to say is that its ever-escalating defect curve is a matter for great concern, and that it calls into question the basic tenet of open source, that "to many eyes all bugs are shallow." The project is now postponing hundreds of important bug fixes because they seem to be under an external pressure from Netscape to call something 1.0. They've compromised on their quality, performance, API freeze, and standards support goals, and they will be releasing as 1.0 a browser that crashes every three and a half hours. It's not a quality product. Some people may not want to hear this, but it's not something I'm making up.

I think you covered most of the bases in explaining your own attitude: "I'm a long time Netscape browser fan that at one point witnessed that Microsoft's IE had FAR surpassed it (for whatever reasons, legal or not) in quality. Then, along comes Mozilla, which looks extremely promising. Only from where we're looking at things, it seems like the project is in a chaos. Slipping deadlines, serious problems with bugs etc. You probably disagree with it, but that's how I (and I'm pretty sure Strauss too) looks at it. If you search other forums, you'll find that a lot of people (if not the majority in fact) agrees with us." That's not some bizarre, mean-spirited perspective expressed for purposes of evil -- it's a realistic and disappointed look at the failed promises of the Mozilla project.