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Mozilla Branches for 0.9.8

Wednesday January 23rd, 2002

mozilla.org today branched for Mozilla Milestone 0.9.8, as well as opened the tree for 0.9.9 checkins. Look for branch builds to start sometime later this week, as early as tomorrow. (While a certain site believes that without builds, you can't have a branch, that is not true.) Pre-0.9.9 trunk builds will start tomorrow, or possibly tonight. See our earlier story for what's new in 0.9.8.


#50 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Problems

by macpeep

Sunday January 27th, 2002 5:51 AM

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"strauss's post complaining that "the site is now broken so badly between the HTML and SQL problems that it's not worth my time to participate" is full of insult and sarcasm, but hardly anything constructive"

It doesn't have to be constructive. He was pointing out that the site is so broken that he doesn't feel like wasting time fighting with it in it's current shape. Right after the side modification had been used, it was so badly broken for me too that I could not use it. I felt the same way. It seems very, very silly to force people to use a marginal browser to view this site. Yes, I know it's a site about Mozilla, but just because most readers are interested in Mozilla doesn't mean that they are / can be surfing with Mozilla as their primary browser. And yes, now, with the latest fixes, the site is again quite usable, at least on IE 6.0, even though there are some minor cosmetic glitches. But if it's not on Mac IE 5.5 that strauss is using, then his comments are very accurate and not sarcastic at all. More like there was a deep sigh in his message. I can understand it quite well..

The Mozilla attitude has always been to get rid of "Best viewed with ...." buttons on sites that have been made to only look good in some browsers. Well, MozillaZine did the exact same thing. The only justification was that it was standards compliant. However when the only browser that could view the site has less than 1% market share, it's definitely not a good thing to shut out other browsers.

I would *LOVE* to use Mozilla as my primary browser and primary email client. I just plain and simply do not find the quality to be good enough for me to switch. I still use NS 4.79 for email and IE 6.0 for the web because those are the two apps that work best for me. That doesn't mean that I'm not interested in Mozilla. So why would you want to force me to use Mozilla and have a degraded overall web experience? Just so I could view this one site? Doesn't sound very tempting..